Wolfie20 7,798 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 If he makes it onto the bench then starts playing a part in matches then it will be because Cocu and his staff feel he's the best option. Should that be at the expense of some of our academy players then so be it - staying faithful to our own because they've come up through the ranks is not a reason to give them preferential treatment. If they're good enough then they will play under this manager. WoollyJumper, nogbad van 50, Arsene Titman and 13 others 6 10 Link to post Share on other sites
Anag Ram 7,047 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Wolfie20 said: If he makes it onto the bench then starts playing a part in matches then it will be because Cocu and his staff feel he's the best option. Should that be at the expense of some of our academy players then so be it - staying faithful to our own because they've come up through the ranks is not a reason to give them preferential treatment. If they're good enough then they will play under this manager. Yes, there was great admiration for Cocu's support of young players not long ago. When they fail to perform, Cocu gets it in the neck. Once they get their chance, academy players need to take it. Obviously there will be bad performances but if repeated they can expect to be benched. jono 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ThePrisoner 6,320 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, maxjam said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12078661/bobby-duncan-Derby-in-talks-to-sign-former-liverpool-striker-from-fiorentina Derby want Duncan to join up initially with their U23s as he looks to re-build his career, but they hope that, with the advice and mentoring of Wayne Rooney, he could be a future star. Not like Sky to shoehorn Wayne Rooney into any news regarding us... Oh wait! IslandExile and Alpha 2 Link to post Share on other sites
whiteroseram 581 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I suspect he sees that being in our U23s doesn't mean he's there for the season and ignored by the senior coaches, like at some clubs. The the amount of players, and indeed coaches, stepping up and working with the seniors consistently, the line between U23 and senior is becoming ever more blurred brady1993 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ramarena 5,291 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 i-Ram, IslandExile and jono 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
jono 9,148 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 This is beginning to sound ever more likely. Interesting. If he signs then Mel will have fully justified his buy one get on free patio set strategy. (Unless the EFL want to start adding those to P and S figures .. which is always possible ) Link to post Share on other sites
Shuff264 2,470 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I imagine if he signs he will play the entire season for u23s, much the same as Hector-Ingram I think the idea is to let the player settle before chucking him in the deep end. Many thought Hector-Ingram was ready to step up sooner, but I believe they just wanted to make sure he was fully settled at the club Link to post Share on other sites
Anag Ram 7,047 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Shuff264 said: I imagine if he signs he will play the entire season for u23s, much the same as Hector-Ingram I think the idea is to let the player settle before chucking him in the deep end. Many thought Hector-Ingram was ready to step up sooner, but I believe they just wanted to make sure he was fully settled at the club Yeah and JHI didn't look too bad when he came on. He may yet get his chance. Who knows it might be him and wee Bobby! jono 1 Link to post Share on other sites
StarterForTen 492 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Lets be honest, there isn't too much blocking his pathway to the first team is there? If Jack is out for a stretch, wee-Bobby will be in the 18 on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites
therealhantsram 2,248 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I see Kaide Gordon has shared a pic of Duncan in a Rams kit. I can't imagine he would have done that unless Duncan had already signed. Just waiting for the announcement now. Tomorrow morning would be my guess. Link to post Share on other sites
S8TY 2,682 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Shuff264 said: I imagine if he signs he will play the entire season for u23s, much the same as Hector-Ingram I think the idea is to let the player settle before chucking him in the deep end. Many thought Hector-Ingram was ready to step up sooner, but I believe they just wanted to make sure he was fully settled at the club Don’t think you’re right I don’t think anyone is going to be 100per cent playing the whole season for the under23s if you perform you can make the jump up ...Cocu and co are trying to make that jump less of cavern ...I like this idea also of it being a realistic chance that if you play well you get rewarded AlvoRam! and jono 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Coconut 5,898 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Yeah and JHI didn't look too bad when he came on. He may yet get his chance. If Marriott is out for a while I think that's pretty much a certainty, he's the only striker we've got left! Edited September 22, 2020 by Coconut jono 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CBRammette 997 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I never get all of this doing their time with the U23 stuff and need to settle in. If they are good enough they play with Cocu end of. Too many excuses given on age like Mason B - if you're good enough and have that x factor Star quality you're old enough (eg young Michael Owen) but if you're not you never quite will be (eg Theo Walcott) Vulcanboy and jono 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Millenniumram 12,741 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Announcement this evening I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites
NorfolkRam 311 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Announcement this evening I reckon. itk? 😉 Link to post Share on other sites
Shuff264 2,470 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, S8TY said: Don’t think you’re right I don’t think anyone is going to be 100per cent playing the whole season for the under23s if you perform you can make the jump up ...Cocu and co are trying to make that jump less of cavern ...I like this idea also of it being a realistic chance that if you play well you get rewarded I disagree, with established players they have shown that there is opportunity but JHI was made to wait and to prove himself completely before he got 13 minutes at West Brom. He was good enough to play last season and didn't, the only reason I can see for that is they wanted him to play for the u23s. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkFruitsRam7 14,538 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: I see Kaide Gordon has shared a pic of Duncan in a Rams kit. I can't imagine he would have done that unless Duncan had already signed. I'd say it's more likely that he shared it because he was listed on the next pic as one to watch at Derby. Link to post Share on other sites
Millenniumram 12,741 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, NorfolkRam said: itk? 😉 Sadly not haha Link to post Share on other sites
Dean (hick) Saunders 816 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Isn’t this just about playing the %ages? The more promising young forwards of high potential on your books, the better the chance that one turns into the next Danny Ings, Glenn Murray or whoever you want to pick. If we just assume one of Whittaker or JHI will turn good then chances are lower. Seems like we have convinced him to come here and that has got to be a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites
MACKWORTHRAM 4,036 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said: Announcement this evening I reckon. He has his medical yesterday with Ibe. So surprised it's not been announced yet. Slaapwekkend P 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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