RoyMac5 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Jourdan said: Personally I would keep Jozefzoon. Obviously we won’t but we really should. We have a small squad and we are light in his position. ... All it takes is an injury to Jozwiak and what a terrible spot we would be in. How is JoFlo gonna help that? Cocu don't rate him and I bet it's mutual. We've seen less from him than from Marriott. Yeah lets keep him! Only thing in your favour is probably no-one else wants him. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: Throwing this one out there... With the arrival of KJ and JI, two out and out wingers. Would training day in day out with them help improve FJ and unleash the player he truly is? Just a thought ??♂️??♂️ No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Olton Ram said: There's a lot of sense in what you say, but the bad feeling between Cocu and Zoon going back to their PSV days (Zoon wasn't happy at his lack of career progression there under Cocu) means he was probably onto a loser the moment Cocu arrived here. He hasn't been given a squad number now even with the injuries. Whatever happens, he's done at DCFC. Time to move on. Also I think its a credit to our manager that although he clearly does not rate him I have never seen or heard any criticism of Zoon and didn't out him straight away..he gave him chances.....he didn't take them ....Cocu always conducts himself exceptionally imo....good luck to Zoon just didn't work out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: How is JoFlo gonna help that? Cocu don't rate him and I bet it's mutual. We've seen less from him than from Marriott. Yeah lets keep him! Only thing in your favour is probably no-one else wants him. ? Obviously he’s not the answer in the long term. I am not saying extend his contract and give him a raise, but while he’s contracted to us, we should utilise him. Based on his time here, we are not going to have a long queue of interested clubs and it’s likely we cannot afford to release him, so we should keep him as a squad player. It’s a long season and injuries and suspensions were a big issue for us last time around, so we should be prepared for that. Yes, when Lawrence, Jozwiak, Ibe and Waghorn are all fit and available, he won’t be needed, but how often is that likely to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Obviously he’s not the answer in the long term. I am not saying extend his contract and give him a raise, but while he’s contracted to us, we should utilise him. What rubbish. He's shown absolutely nothing to be given a place on the team before other players! What does that do for squad morale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Obviously he’s not the answer in the long term. I am not saying extend his contract and give him a raise, but while he’s contracted to us, we should utilise him. Based on his time here, we are not going to have a long queue of interested clubs and it’s likely we cannot afford to release him, so we should keep him as a squad player. It’s a long season and injuries and suspensions were a big issue for us last time around, so we should be prepared for that. Yes, when Lawrence, Jozwiak, Ibe and Waghorn are all fit and available, he won’t be needed, but how often is that likely to be? Could've said the same about Anya but sometimes you just have to get rid....if possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberRamber Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Obviously he’s not the answer in the long term. I am not saying extend his contract and give him a raise, but while he’s contracted to us, we should utilise him. Based on his time here, we are not going to have a long queue of interested clubs and it’s likely we cannot afford to release him, so we should keep him as a squad player. It’s a long season and injuries and suspensions were a big issue for us last time around, so we should be prepared for that. Yes, when Lawrence, Jozwiak, Ibe and Waghorn are all fit and available, he won’t be needed, but how often is that likely to be? With respect I don't think any manager builds a squad thinking we need this many players coz we get lots of suspensions. Jozefzoon has not given any evidence that he is going to be an effective player for the Rams and his wages will help balance up the outgoings. Make no mistake Cocu is trying to build a younger squad that can become a team and Florian is not going to play any part in that. Wish him all the best but we have seen the last of him with a ram on his chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 For me, it looks like he’ll be given a severance package at 5 minutes to the transfer deadline and he can then look for a new club as a free agent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stedcfc Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Seems he’s as good at looking for a new club as he is as playing football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 He had one season for Brentford before we rushed in splashing the cash. His appearance stats before that were not great. i ‘m not sure what we thought we saw. With Lawrence, Waghorn and Wilson being preferred, it begs the question why we splashed so much money on a squad player. Maybe we were expecting Lawrence to leave? Having said that, he produced a couple of decent appearances - both away at Hull. But the switch from 433 to 4231 has meant that there isn’t really an orthodox wide midfield position available. I can’t help but feel that we haven’t really made the most of him, and to bomb him out isn’t going to achieve anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Stedcfc said: Seems he’s as good at looking for a new club as he is as playing football I didn't realise you were privy to behind the scenes stuff. How do you know nothing is in progress or happening? He's got 16 days left before the transfer window shuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 25/09/2020 at 14:37, Jourdan said: Personally I would keep Jozefzoon. Obviously we won’t but we really should. We have a small squad and we are light in his position. Lawrence, Ibe and Waghorn are still weeks away from being ready to play and injuries and suspensions will be a constant churn over the season. They won’t just magically stop in November. All it takes is an injury to Jozwiak and what a terrible spot we would be in. I am not sure how we can complain about the finances, injuries, and a lack of squad depth, yet completely fail to utilise a potentially fit and able senior player while he is here. Yes, we all know he hasn’t really sparkled in a Derby shirt, but if we want him to attract interest from other clubs, how is he going to do that if he is being frozen out? Lawrence, Jozwiak, Ibe and Waghorn are clearly ahead of him in the pecking order and have/will be far more productive. Whittaker and Knight have also been more productive on the wings than him with a much higher ceiling. Holmes is also a very good emergency option as 7th choice winger, with a similar productivity. There's no value to the club in keeping him around and we'd actually be better off by loaning him out somewhere until January, even if we do cover all of his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Anyone mentioned to Forest that he has two legs and is available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Anyone mentioned to Forest that he has two legs and is available? If they took him, you just know he'd score the winner against us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Could do a swap with Frank for Clarke salter for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Zoon told to find new club, unfortunately he is currently using Andre Wisdoms sat nav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: Probably play brilliantly for them for a small wage to them. Always thought Zoom was a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 That is quite the coup for Rotherham. Good luck to him. I think he deserved better from us at times, but football can be brutal sometimes. Hope he can revive his career and prove his doubters wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 No doubt he'll thrive! More than likely score against us too (providing it's a sale, not a loan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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