Ghost of Clough Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, EulogyForEvolution said: I never really understood why he didn't get much of a chance. Especially as we don't have any wingers in the squad. Very strange. He didn't really appear much under either manager. Maybe he's just a bad trainer. He wasn't great when he appeared for us, but I never thought he was bad enough that he shouldn't even make the bench ?♂️ I'd argue the opposite. We've heard from most players that Flo is really good in training. However, in his 22 games worth of minutes he only scored 2 and assisted 2. He had just 1 shot in the entirety of last season, and all 22 of his crosses failed to find a target. He only managed to find a man from a cross once in his two seasons with us! If he's struggling to to the attacking right, you'd expect him to put the defensive work in instead. But, he was behind all our other wingers for that as well - Lawrence, Waghorn, Holmes, Knight and Whittaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, ViewsFromTheMiddle said: No doubt he’ll become a world beater wherever he ends up. More chance of him becoming an egg beater, never really made a statement for us as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I imagine he was told this weeks if not months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, ViewsFromTheMiddle said: No doubt he’ll become a world beater wherever he ends up. Probably team up with Weimann and Martin at Bristol City and become part of the most feared front three in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: He only managed to find a man from a cross once in his two seasons with us! And that was pre-covid and the man was sitting seven rows back near the corner flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Probably team up with Weimann and Martin at Bristol City and become part of the most feared front three in the league. With Weimann and Zoon the crowd will fear them shooting and hitting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: I'd argue the opposite. We've heard from most players that Flo is really good in training. However, in his 22 games worth of minutes he only scored 2 and assisted 2. He had just 1 shot in the entirety of last season, and all 22 of his crosses failed to find a target. He only managed to find a man from a cross once in his two seasons with us! If he's struggling to to the attacking right, you'd expect him to put the defensive work in instead. But, he was behind all our other wingers for that as well - Lawrence, Waghorn, Holmes, Knight and Whittaker i really hope no would be buyers read this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 How long is left on his current contract? As it's disingenuous Cocu saying he needs to find another club as potentially he will just do an Anya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: How long is left on his current contract? As it's disingenuous Cocu saying he needs to find another club as potentially he will just do an Anya. not really disingenuous, think Cocu is being sincere about it being in Zoon's best interest to move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, YorkshireRam said: not really disingenuous, think Cocu is being sincere about it being in Zoon's best interest to move on? How long a contact does he have left? As I don't see what's stopping him just sitting it out like Anya if it's a long time remaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: How long a contact does he have left? As I don't see what's stopping him just sitting it out like Anya if it's a long time remaining 9 months, end of June 2021. ...still doesn't make Cocu's comments disingenuous though. That'd mean he was being deliberately dishonest about it being best for all parties for Zoon to move on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: How long a contact does he have left? As I don't see what's stopping him just sitting it out like Anya if it's a long time remaining Maybe Flo Jo has more desire to play than Anya ? Professional pride ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EulogyForEvolution Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: I'd argue the opposite. We've heard from most players that Flo is really good in training. However, in his 22 games worth of minutes he only scored 2 and assisted 2. He had just 1 shot in the entirety of last season, and all 22 of his crosses failed to find a target. He only managed to find a man from a cross once in his two seasons with us! If he's struggling to to the attacking right, you'd expect him to put the defensive work in instead. But, he was behind all our other wingers for that as well - Lawrence, Waghorn, Holmes, Knight and Whittaker That's a fair point. I hadn't looked into the numbers. I just remember him being generally underwhelming. I just wonder why, really. He seems to have everything in his tool kit to be a decent winger and, as you said, players often refer to him as the most skillful player in training. I do think it's best he moves on, but I just feel like he's had a really odd stint here. A bit like a less extreme version of Anya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Rams Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Typical Derby.. we sign the only player from Brentford who turned out to be crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Patrick Rams said: Typical Derby.. we sign the only player from Brentford who turned out to be crap Try telling Villa fans that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I have it on good authority that Jack Marriott has been told to find a new club too....... ...he chose this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said: How long a contact does he have left? As I don't see what's stopping him just sitting it out like Anya if it's a long time remaining Anya was a bit older and had been at bigger clubs for a longer period of time (more money in the bank). If he sits this contract out he won’t be getting as good a deal as if he moved out in this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 One of our better signings of recent years. Only £2.75m down the plug hole. ? we stand to lose less on him than we did on Johnson, butterfield, Blackman or Anya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, RamNut said: One of our better signings of recent years. Only £2.75m down the plug hole. ? we stand to lose less on him than we did on Johnson, butterfield, Blackman or Anya. My offer of a hug still stands ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: I'd argue the opposite. We've heard from most players that Flo is really good in training. However, in his 22 games worth of minutes he only scored 2 and assisted 2. He had just 1 shot in the entirety of last season, and all 22 of his crosses failed to find a target. He only managed to find a man from a cross once in his two seasons with us! If he's struggling to to the attacking right, you'd expect him to put the defensive work in instead. But, he was behind all our other wingers for that as well - Lawrence, Waghorn, Holmes, Knight and Whittaker That’s the worst job reference I’ve ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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