Ghost of Clough Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Got to love the EFL allowing home fans back in for our first away game of the season!* *I, in no way, think there is a conspiracy against us. Here's the list of clubs at home this Saturday: Forest, Brentford, Boro, Reading, Blackburn, Rotherham, Sheff Weds, Luton, Norwich, Swansea, Stoke. Boro and Norwich were chosen. Hard to argue against those selections as they're 2 of the bigger grounds in the league, with a max capacity of 33,746 and 27,244 meaning only 1 in 30 seats is occupied. But Luton's is only 10,226! Why would you choose them when you have Sheff Weds with almost 40k seats, Blackburn with over 31k, Forest and Stoke with 30k. The location of the ground makes it an even more baffling choice with rows of houses lining the entrances, garden gates and narrow passageways to pass through to get in. Even Rotherham would have been a better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: Here's the list of clubs at home this Saturday: Forest, Brentford, Boro, Reading, Blackburn, Rotherham, Sheff Weds, Luton, Norwich, Swansea, Stoke. Boro and Norwich were chosen. Hard to argue against those selections as they're 2 of the bigger grounds in the league, with a max capacity of 33,746 and 27,244 meaning only 1 in 30 seats is occupied. But Luton's is only 10,226! Why would you choose them when you have Sheff Weds with almost 40k seats, Blackburn with over 31k, Forest and Stoke with 30k. The location of the ground makes it an even more baffling choice with rows of houses lining the entrances, garden gates and narrow passageways to pass through to get in. Even Rotherham would have been a better choice. Maybe they need to see how it works at different types of grounds. It may not be 1000. Its a percentage and then no more than 1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Also I remember that Luton had Corona pretty badly at the peak, may have recovered now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/sport/football/luton-town/confusion-reigns-lutons-clash-rams-chosen-efl-test-event-despite-hatters-withdrawing-their-application-2973798 Quote Luton's home match against Derby County has been thrown into disarray after the Hatters were chosen as one of the ten EFL cubs allowed to admit fans back to their ground on Saturday, just minutes after chief executive Gary Sweet stated that Town had withdrawn their application. ... However, Town chief executive Sweet had stated only moments previously that Town were not looking to go ahead with the plans after not being given enough time to get ready by the EFL. Even more incompetence from the EFL, it appears... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, sage said: Maybe they need to see how it works at different types of grounds. It may not be 1000. Its a percentage and then no more than 1000. Isn't that why they've selected 7 L1/2 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Luton's statement isn't complimentary to the EFL... https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2020/september/pilot-programme-statement/ Quote On Tuesday at around midday, having received an email from the EFL asking for clubs to volunteer to take part, we put ourselves forward. We responded within the hour because, like many clubs, we are desperate to have our supporters back inside Kenilworth Road. To stage a game with supporters here would take a lot of preparation time, and unfortunately, despite asking again from very early this morning, we had heard nothing from the League until a few minutes before they issued their statement stating that we were one of the clubs taking part. Sadly, this does not give us enough time to get ready so we are unable to host spectators here for the Derby match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Luton's statement isn't complimentary to the EFL... https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2020/september/pilot-programme-statement/ couldn't make it up could you? just one ill considered mess after another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Should be grateful. No one should be subjected to us in the flesh at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Here's the list of clubs at home this Saturday: Forest, Brentford, Boro, Reading, Blackburn, Rotherham, Sheff Weds, Luton, Norwich, Swansea, Stoke. Boro and Norwich were chosen. Hard to argue against those selections as they're 2 of the bigger grounds in the league, with a max capacity of 33,746 and 27,244 meaning only 1 in 30 seats is occupied. But Luton's is only 10,226! Why would you choose them when you have Sheff Weds with almost 40k seats, Blackburn with over 31k, Forest and Stoke with 30k. The location of the ground makes it an even more baffling choice with rows of houses lining the entrances, garden gates and narrow passageways to pass through to get in. Even Rotherham would have been a better choice. EFL again P up in a brewery springs to mind. Also 27 cases per 100,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 The EFL really are such an embarrassingly incompetent organisation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Isn't that why they've selected 7 L1/2 games? Being in league one doesn't mean the ground is in and around houses. They will want to look at different types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, sage said: Maybe they need to see how it works at different types of grounds. It may not be 1000. Its a percentage and then no more than 1000. Spot on @Sage. They need to “test” all permutations because different types of grounds may “pose” different risks. They asked their expert, Mr Messenger, and he advised just doing it at Morecombe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Animal is a Ram said: Luton's statement isn't complimentary to the EFL... https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2020/september/pilot-programme-statement/ I’m sorry - but I think Luton are just as incompetent here. I’m not buying for one second they haven’t been “prepared” to let fans back in. Surely and by the way they offered to be a trial, they really had no “plan” in place? Think sometimes, you have to look at your own club when you “offer” to get involved..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Mafiabob said: I’m sorry - but I think Luton are just as incompetent here. I’m not buying for one second they haven’t been “prepared” to let fans back in. Surely and by the way they offered to be a trial, they really had no “plan” in place? Think sometimes, you have to look at your own club when you “offer” to get involved..... I would disagree. This is a complicated process. You have to contact stewards, allocate and train them. You have to select and communicate with supporters. You would only have an outline plan until a) you know you have been chosen and b) you know what exact criteria this pilot study requires. You also have the added complication of furloughed staff returning to work for a one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, sage said: I would disagree. This is a complicated process. You have to contact stewards, allocate and train them. You have to select and communicate with supporters. You would only have an outline plan until a) you know you have been chosen and b) you know what exact criteria this pilot study requires. You also have the added complication of furloughed staff returning to work for a one off. Then why volunteer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: I’m sorry - but I think Luton are just as incompetent here. I’m not buying for one second they haven’t been “prepared” to let fans back in. Surely and by the way they offered to be a trial, they really had no “plan” in place? Think sometimes, you have to look at your own club when you “offer” to get involved..... So the EFL didn't bother to check if those clubs are suitably set up to host these trials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, sage said: I would disagree. This is a complicated process. You have to contact stewards, allocate and train them. You have to select and communicate with supporters. You would only have an outline plan until a) you know you have been chosen and b) you know what exact criteria this pilot study requires. You also have the added complication of furloughed staff returning to work for a one off. If they volunteered Tuesday lunchtime and pulled out Wednesday lunchtime, I'd have to ask why did they volunteer in the first place? Also - with these trial events, anyone actually no what type of 'data' is looked at afterwards to see how they went? anyway - this isn't a Corona thread so: Marshall Byrne Wisdom Clarke Forsyth Bird Rooney Knight Sibley Jozwiak Marriott At least Rooney in this position would look to go forward with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Mafiabob said: Then why volunteer? Because when they applied they expected a swifter more professional response to assist them get things in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Mafiabob said: Then why volunteer? They didn't think it would take that long to get the nod. Maybe the criteria they received had unexpected complications such as having to select specific age ranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, rammieib said: If they volunteered Tuesday lunchtime and pulled out Wednesday lunchtime, I'd have to ask why did they volunteer in the first place? Also - with these trial events, anyone actually no what type of 'data' is looked at afterwards to see how they went? anyway - this isn't a Corona thread so: Marshall Byrne Wisdom Clarke Forsyth Bird Rooney Knight Sibley Jozwiak Marriott At least Rooney in this position would look to go forward with the ball. It was first thing on Tuesday. I agree with your side though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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