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Jordon Ibe - Signed on a 2 year deal


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I think, if we get a LB in this window, it will be a premier league loan. The future players in that position are Buchanan and Archie Brown, so we don't want to block their paths. Fozzy is only good enough for cover when we have a long injury list now (unfortunately) and Buchanan needs more time with the first team to be ready. Archie looks to be a key member of the u23 team, but could maybe do with a loan to League 1 or 2 for at least the second half of the season if he continues to find the youth levels too easy.

Saying that though, this is the Ibe thread and if our attack is dangerous enough then some of the pressure will be relieved from the defence. Buchanan will possibly make himself first choice with Fozzy covering on the bench and Archie the next in line if needs be.

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35 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said:

Watching MotD last night and i thought about players that didn't play for extended spells but then hit the ground running once they did again... Danny Ings barely played for 3 seasons but is smashing it at Southampton now

Ibe made 24 appearances (3 goals) in 18/19 but only made 4 last season. This is only 1 season out really so he shouldn't be more than  a few weeks away from playing with match fitness being the only issue. He shouldn't really be that rusty when players are often out for longer with bad injuries?

Yes, a good call that. And if he hasn’t been playing then all the little knocks aches and pains that any athlete is likely to have after a hard season may not be there. A week or so of training, a sub appearance or two and with a fair wind we might have the road runner we saw first time round. COYR

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With this signing, I could see us setting up like Brighton did so effectively at the Toon. 3-4-3 (which can be easily adapted during games). I'd go with:

Lawrence

Wisdom   Dutch Mike   Clarke

Byrne   Rooney   Bird   Buchanan

Ibe   Waggers   Jozwiak

 

Add in (when fit) Bielik and Lawrence, and with Marriott, Shinnie, Sibley and Knight waiting in the wings, we could be a team to be feared.

I can but dream... 

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1 minute ago, Mazzaram said:

With this signing, I could see us setting up like Brighton did so effectively at the Toon. 3-4-3 (which can be easily adapted during games). I'd go with:

Lawrence

Wisdom   Dutch Mike   Clarke

Byrne   Rooney   Bird   Buchanan

Ibe   Waggers   Jozwiak

 

Add in (when fit) Bielik and Lawrence, and with Marriott, Shinnie, Sibley and Knight waiting in the wings, we could be a team to be feared.

I can but dream... 

Lawrence in net? I'm unconvinced by Marshall too but that's a bold choice.

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28 minutes ago, Dcfcsr92 said:

Apprently signing a 2 year contract I would of tried to tie him down to at least a 3 year deal still be good if it happens 

We haven’t signed him yet. Get in touch with the club quick as this is something they might have overlooked in the excitement.

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35 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said:

We do have Forsyth, Shinnie and Buchanan already which is why Lowe was allowed to leave, because we also needed the money to help reshape the team. Think we remain well covered in this department.

People said the exact same when Bogle left. "Well we have Wisdom, Ebosele, Evans can play there if needs be and so can MTW."

Its the same now. We have a full back who isn't good enough anymore in Forsyth. A young lad who's barely played and then a midfielder who can play there if needs be. 

We need a good left back. We can't go into a season with those 3 as our left back options.

If there's a good loan or a decent cheap deal out there like Byrne was. Then we need to do it.

 

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5 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

People said the exact same when Bogle left. "Well we have Wisdom, Ebosele, Evans can play there if needs be and so can MTW."

Its the same now. We have a full back who isn't good enough anymore in Forsyth. A young lad who's barely played and then a midfielder who can play there if needs be. 

We need a good left back. We can't go into a season with those 3 as our left back options.

If there's a good loan or a decent cheap deal out there like Byrne was. Then we need to do it.

 

Well yeah but we’re paying the wages of two LB’s already in Forsyth and Buchanan. In an extremely tricky window when we’re supposedly skint and desperately need a striker (not cheap), are we really spending money on a LB?

No one was saying we needed a LB until Saturday, it’s a clear overreaction to one bad performance early in the season. Cocu’s clearly comfortable with Fozzy and you should be too, we all know what the bloke’s about. He’ll occasionally have a stinker but will just as often string together 7/8 games where he’s solid as a rock.

Buchanan- “A young lad who’s barely played”...well let him play then. 

LB- Forsyth, Buchanan

RB- Byrne, Ebosele

Very cost efficient depth chart, have patience with it.

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6 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

People said the exact same when Bogle left. "Well we have Wisdom, Ebosele, Evans can play there if needs be and so can MTW."

Its the same now. We have a full back who isn't good enough anymore in Forsyth. A young lad who's barely played and then a midfielder who can play there if needs be. 

We need a good left back. We can't go into a season with those 3 as our left back options.

If there's a good loan or a decent cheap deal out there like Byrne was. Then we need to do it.

 

I'd be straight on the phone to Leeds asking them to borrow us Barry Douglas for the season after witnessing Forsyth's performances so far this season. Dead ball specialist and can operate at LWB if we want to go to 5-3-2. Fitness problems are the only red flag I have with him.

Like you, I'd be extremely worried if the window closed with those 3 as our only LB options. I like what I've seen of Buchanan so far, but I wouldn't want us to rely on him for a extended period of games. Forsyth is done at this level IMO. Good servant, but we need better if we want to progress.

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9 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said:

Well yeah but we’re paying the wages of two LB’s already in Forsyth and Buchanan. In an extremely tricky window when we’re supposedly skint and desperately need a striker (not cheap), are we really spending money on a LB?

Yeh - This is it for me - Fozzy has always had a mistake in him but he tends to balance that out with some good attacking support and some cracking games - It's not a priority position for me and (hopefully) it's mostly about some organisation - Love him or loathe him Keogh used to organise the defence well and we missed that last season - Hopefully Te Wierik is the leader/organiser who's been brought in to correct that

9 minutes ago, Millenniumram said:

Great news that this one seems to be all but done. Surprised it’s only a two year deal though, seems quite short term for someone his age. Guess it reduces the risk if things go wrong.

If he has a good season you can always give him a longer contract next summer - Or if he has a really really good season and someone comes in for him there's a year left and we can get some money for him - I'd say it makes sense for both parties

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16 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said:

Well yeah but we’re paying the wages of two LB’s already in Forsyth and Buchanan. In an extremely tricky window when we’re supposedly skint and desperately need a striker (not cheap), are we really spending money on a LB?

No one was saying we needed a LB until Saturday, it’s a clear overreaction to one bad performance early in the season. Cocu’s clearly comfortable with Fozzy and you should be too, we all know what the bloke’s about. He’ll occasionally have a stinker but will just as often string together 7/8 games where he’s solid as a rock.

Buchanan- “A young lad who’s barely played”...well let him play then. 

LB- Forsyth, Buchanan

RB- Byrne, Ebosele

Very cost efficient depth chart, have patience with it.

I've said as soon as Bogle and Lowe left that they would both need replacing. Because having Forsyth as first choice left back is not an option for me. I'm not comfortable at all with Forsyth. Cocu probably isn't either. But at the minute he's pretty much his only option. 

Buchanan looks more comfortable in a LWB role than a LB role. 

A striker is a priority. FWIW I think we need one this week. Because we're going into Saturday without one. 

Nobody is expecting us to spend big. A loan would be fine. But we need a left back.

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