Malagaram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 14 hours ago, David said: Still going down. Just shows your knowledge of the game,fancy a bet,I will wager whatever amount that you want,my bet would be that Leeds stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, Malagaram said: Just shows your knowledge of the game,fancy a bet,I will wager whatever amount that you want,my bet would be that Leeds stay up. They will finish top 10 if Bielsa sees the season out. Good footballing team with a tremendous work ethic. The man has turned Ayling and Dallas in to fantastic footballers. Who would have thought. p.s. I would avoid betting with Dodgy Dave if I was you. Malagaram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Bamford's turned from one of the most wasteful 'top' CFs in the Championship (8.9 shots per goal) to one of the most lethal in the Prem (3.8 shots per goal). Quite remarkable to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Bamford's turned from one of the most wasteful 'top' CFs in the Championship (8.9 shots per goal) to one of the most lethal in the Prem (3.8 shots per goal). Quite remarkable to be honest. Proof that the Premier League's a tinpot league and its top strikers wouldn't hack it in the Championship ariotofmyown, Alph, RadioactiveWaste and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Bamford's turned from one of the most wasteful 'top' CFs in the Championship (8.9 shots per goal) to one of the most lethal in the Prem (3.8 shots per goal). Quite remarkable to be honest. Also according to WhoScored.com he was 95% tosspot last season and this season it's 94%. rynny, JoetheRam, TigerTedd and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Alpha said: Also according to WhoScored.com he was 95% tosspot last season and this season it's 94%. Some would use a stronger word than tosspot, like bamford or even Patrick bamford. Alph, DarkFruitsRam7 and GenBr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 23 hours ago, Malagaram said: Just shows your knowledge of the game,fancy a bet,I will wager whatever amount that you want,my bet would be that Leeds stay up. He'll pay you in monopoly money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 Can’t believe some think they will stay up, all over a flukey start to the season ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Whilst I am usually very pleased when a newly promoted team start well I reserve my judgement on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 18 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Bamford's turned from one of the most wasteful 'top' CFs in the Championship (8.9 shots per goal) to one of the most lethal in the Prem (3.8 shots per goal). Quite remarkable to be honest. Still a Bamford playing for the Dirties though. That is his crime - and his punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 The way to deal with this is just accept that these are not a real Leeds team. They play great football, don't cheat much and don't even have many bamfords in the team. Enjoy it as an underdog punching above their weight and upsetting some established teams. And in 1 or 2 years; really enjoy them dropping down again and reverting to type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 25/10/2020 at 00:34, Ghost of Clough said: Bamford's turned from one of the most wasteful 'top' CFs in the Championship (8.9 shots per goal) to one of the most lethal in the Prem (3.8 shots per goal). Quite remarkable to be honest. This is where stats like xG are actually useful and aren't absolute rubbish like people say. He underperformed massively on xG last season but it showed he was getting into the positions and having goal scoring chances which he either missed or were saved. Now, he's regressing towards the mean and getting goals he did deserve in the first place. ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td_evans Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jubbs said: This is where stats like xG are actually useful and aren't absolute rubbish like people say. He underperformed massively on xG last season but it showed he was getting into the positions and having goal scoring chances which he either missed or were saved. Now, he's regressing towards the mean and getting goals he did deserve in the first place. He's a striker. How did he 'deserve' those goals last year if he was hitting them wide or at the keeper? You don't deserve a goal for simply standing in a good position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, td_evans said: You don't deserve a goal for simply standing in a good position. Getting into good positions and into good shooting positions is vital to getting goals unless you're an elite finisher. Bamford does this and gets into good positions. Getting into these positions means you're more likely to get more goals, like he is doing now. Last season, his xG had him down as around an expected 25 goals, he got 16. He's now regressing towards the mean and getting his goals he deserved in the first place. Edited October 26, 2020 by Jubbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jubbs said: Getting into good positions and into good shooting positions is vital to getting goals unless you're an elite finisher. Bamford does this and gets into good positions. Getting into these positions means you're more likely to get more goals, like he is doing now. Last season, his xG had him down as around an expected 25 goals, he got 16. He's now regressing towards the mean and getting his goals he should have got in the first place. FTFY. Deserved is possibly not the right word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Jubbs said: This is where stats like xG are actually useful and aren't absolute rubbish like people say. He underperformed massively on xG last season but it showed he was getting into the positions and having goal scoring chances which he either missed or were saved. Now, he's regressing towards the mean and getting goals he did deserve in the first place. xG doesn't take into account the player taking the shot. Bamford's strike rate had been decreasing year upon year, so . I don't think you can put that all down to "regressing towards the mean" 16/17 = 6 shots per goal 17/18 = 6.5 shots per goal 18/19 = 7.6 shots per goal 19/20 = 8.9 shots per goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 xG can go in the bin. Creating new stats for stats sake, was Roofe expected to ping one in from the half way line the other week for Rangers? No. But he did, that’s a goal, he’s scored a goal and will probably miss a sitter next week. Carnero, JoetheRam and Alph 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, David said: xG can go in the bin. So can those NextGen win %'s too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Comrade 86, RadioactiveWaste and i-Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 To be fair, the levels of delusion amogst Leeds fans they probably believe they get the loan fee for allowing a player to pull on the cockroach crest of the team the world still know as "dirty leeds" as well as the sell on clause of loan players..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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