angieram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Bit more on this from the same guy at the Derby Telegraph. We seem to have been after him for a while. I do think we need a decent winger and this could be an affordable loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Excellent if season ticket holders get discount at the family's old restaurants. Let's go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 No thanks. Seen him a few times and have never been particularly impressed. Picks up decent numbers, but his all round game doesn’t seem to back it up. Wouldn’t be an improvement on what we’ve got imo. Most links from TeamTalk tend to be BS anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Is he the good twin or the not-so-good one? We got the crap Olsson twin. I like the Murphys, I'm not bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekingofbuxton Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 This would be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: No thanks. Seen him a few times and have never been particularly impressed. Picks up decent numbers, but his all round game doesn’t seem to back it up. Wouldn’t be an improvement on what we’ve got imo. Most links from TeamTalk tend to be BS anyway. How can he not be an improvement on what we have? When our only out and out winger is Jozefzoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Animal is a Ram said: I could get behind this one. That's not the first reply I would expect to see after a photo of Neil Warnock is posted. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Nice to see people writing him off. Makes me think everything is right with the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: How can he not be an improvement on what we have? When our only out and out winger is Jozefzoon. Lawrence and Holmes are both better in that position imo. We don’t really play with out and out wingers, and I’m not sure I’d call Murphy one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty1986 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Jacob Murphy would be a welcome addition to any side at this level, particularly so for one which badly lacks natural width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: How can he not be an improvement on what we have? When our only out and out winger is Jozefzoon. And that will become a running theme with every winger we’re linked with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Lawrence and Holmes are both better in that position imo. We don’t really play with out and out wingers, and I’m not sure I’d call Murphy one either. Mate surely you aren't serious? Whilst I'm not saying Murphy would be an absolute game changer of a signing. He's a winger, with pace who's direct which is exactly what we need. Lawrence isn't a winger and he likes to drift inside leaving us with no width. Holmes isn't a winger either. Like Lawrence/Waghorn they want to play through the middle and will drift inside. This is why we are crying out for a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Lawrence and Holmes are both better in that position imo. We don’t really play with out and out wingers, and I’m not sure I’d call Murphy one either. We don’t play with them because we don’t have any! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Out and out wingers are a dying breed and as @Millenniumram on one of his rare occasions is correct, we don't really play with wingers anyway. Inside forwards they are called now, right footers playing on the left, putting the full back on his arse, laying it off or cracking a shot off. We're no longer in the 4-4-2 days where you have 2 wingers hugging the touchline, whipping balls into a big man in the middle. We was, and for a time thats exactly what we needed, but we've moved on now. Problem is, we've tried to put strikers out there that "can" put a shift in out wide, Waghorn for example, Now I know some will say he's not a striker either as he needs 10 attempts for one goal, but come on, when a striker is moved around into several positions, loses a bit of confidence these things happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Lawrence and Holmes are both better in that position imo. We don’t really play with out and out wingers, and I’m not sure I’d call Murphy one either. Holmes is better centrally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, matty1986 said: Jacob Murphy would be a welcome addition to any side at this level, particularly so for one which badly lacks natural width. But apparently he’s poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Would be a pretty sensible move. Good player at this level, would add an extra threat for us. Would like this one to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Mate surely you aren't serious? Whilst I'm not saying Murphy would be an absolute game changer of a signing. He's a winger, with pace who's direct which is exactly what we need. Lawrence isn't a winger and he likes to drift inside leaving us with no width. Holmes isn't a winger either. Like Lawrence/Waghorn they want to play through the middle and will drift inside. This is why we are crying out for a winger. Is it though? As far as I can tell, Cocu’s favoured system is the 4231 which imo only functions correctly when you’re playing inside forwards. Which is exactly why Cocu has been playing the likes of Knight out of position there rather than Jozefzoon. Obviously the fact that the latter is useless doesn’t help either, but I’d say that Knight being more suited to our style of play is more of a contributing factor to Cocu’s thinking than people give it credit for. Clearly getting a winger in that improves upon our current options is a massive priority, and we could really do with that being a player with pace and skill as we lack both those attributes across our team. No argument from me on that account. But what we don’t need imo is an old fashioned run to the byline and whack it in type player. We don’t play that way, nor do we have a strike force that’s suited to getting on the end of crosses like that. Not saying Murphy is that type of player btw, just saying we need to be careful that we get the right sort of player. We’ve had years of poor recruitment of players unsuited to our style of play, we need to make sure that doesn’t continue. The problem I have with this link is I simply don’t rate the lad. Simple as that. I know we need a winger, but we need one who’s top quality. Few players performances for other teams stick in my head, but for some reason Murphy stands out. And not in a good way. I’ve seen him quite a few times and I seem to remember thinking he’s bank every time. If you look back I said exactly the same about Dowell last summer while everyone was bigging him up. I might be wrong of course, I have been many times before, but that’s my opinion on the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Holmes is better centrally I agree, but he’s still a better wide man in our system than Murphy (though still not good enough). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I might be wrong of course, I have been many times before, but that’s my opinion on the lad. You may be the only poster more consistently wrong than me, so it's reassuring ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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