DesertRam Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Great minds ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 I used to say, without hesitation, that Bruce Rioch was the best striker of a free kick that we'd ever had but I think Wilson tops him. He was that good for us ? who cares about Bournemouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, DesertRam said: Can you imagine Wilson, Mount and Hughes playing together and the intuitivness and creativity that would bring, pie in the sky, but you can dream eh! Then a team of cloggers rock up, beat us 2-0 with goals from corners and injure all 3 for the season with "50/50" challenges. I'm looking at you stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 55 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Couldn't get in a Bournemouth team scrapping for promotion, tells you a lot. Luxury player who, set pieces aside, didnt really offer much to our team and I'm guessing it was the same at Bournemouth. He played 31 times in the Prem for them last year and thats with him missing several games through injury. don't really think you can argue he couldn't get in their team. He was also their second highest scorer (although thats not saying much). He was and would be great at Championship level, but there is no way we could afford him. I actually think it would be interesting if Leeds got him - see if Bielsa can develop some of the more lacking areas of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 He’s established himself as a pretty decent lower end Premier League player now, absolutely no chance we can bring him back to the championship. I suspect Liverpool will be looking for a loan with a view to a permanent now anyway as he’s never going to make it there. Our only hope of getting him is if they loan him out to a team which gets relegated next season and thus can’t afford him the following summer - if we were to get promoted this season, we could then nip in and sign him permanently next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Imagine Steve Gibson! More chance of me being the pacy winger to rip defences apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, GenBr said: He played 31 times in the Prem for them last year and thats with him missing several games through injury. don't really think you can argue he couldn't get in their team. He was also their second highest scorer (although thats not saying much). He was and would be great at Championship level, but there is no way we could afford him. I actually think it would be interesting if Leeds got him - see if Bielsa can develop some of the more lacking areas of his game. Beat me to it. 7 goals in 31 games in his first season in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, GenBr said: He played 31 times in the Prem for them last year and thats with him missing several games through injury. don't really think you can argue he couldn't get in their team. He was also their second highest scorer (although thats not saying much). He was and would be great at Championship level, but there is no way we could afford him. I actually think it would be interesting if Leeds got him - see if Bielsa can develop some of the more lacking areas of his game. He was taken off at half time in a 2-0 home defeat by Crystal Palace and then didnt start any if the next 9 games. Was decent at Championship level, not sure he will cut it at Premier Level. Other than his set pieces I can't thing of any other part of his game that was outstanding at Championship level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: He was taken off at half time in a 2-0 home defeat by Crystal Palace and then didnt start any if the next 9 games. Was decent at Championship level, not sure he will cut it at Premier Level. Other than his set pieces I can't thing of any other part of his game that was outstanding at Championship level. This. He had a handful of genuinely good games. He’s in the weird position of being average at everything, save for having one of the best left-foot shots in world football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Quite possibly, if its only his goals that count though it seems strange that Bournemouth didnt play him. 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Couldn't get in a Bournemouth team scrapping for promotion, tells you a lot. Luxury player who, set pieces aside, didnt really offer much to our team and I'm guessing it was the same at Bournemouth. Promotion from the Premier League....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 He was rather good wasn’t he ! I still have a tiny bit of hope that he would like to return and try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Most of those goals were set pieces though and aside from that don't think he brought much to the team. 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: A big leap to assume he would have scored 18 goals in this team. You’re simultaneously arguing that he’s a set-piece merchant (which he isn’t - most of his goals came from open play) and that it’s a ‘huge leap’ to suggest he’d get 18 goals this season. Unless we’ve won a load less free kicks this season, I can’t see how that’s logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Couldn't get in a Bournemouth team scrapping for promotion, tells you a lot. Luxury player who, set pieces aside, didnt really offer much to our team and I'm guessing it was the same at Bournemouth. 10 times the player of his countryman Lawrence. I know who I'd rather have in our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: You’re simultaneously arguing that he’s a set-piece merchant (which he isn’t - most of his goals came from open play) and that it’s a ‘huge leap’ to suggest he’d get 18 goals this season. Unless we’ve won a load less free kicks this season, I can’t see how that’s logical. Dont think we get in as many attacking positions under Cocu as we did under Lampard. Just my general perception and could easily be wrong. Without thinking back too much, I can think of at least 6 of his goals that we free kicks of penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said: 10 times the player of his countryman Lawrence. I know who I'd rather have in our side. In terms of general play I dont think there is much between the two. Obviously would rather have Wilson based on his goalscoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 No one calls Vydra a penalty merchant but somehow Wilson’s a set piece merchant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: In terms of general play I dont think there is much between the two. Obviously would rather have Wilson based on his goalscoring. Notice how many of those goals involve Jack Marriott too. I hope the lad comes-out fighting fit (for probably the first time since he signed) when we go again next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, IslandExile said: I used to say, without hesitation, that Bruce Rioch was the best striker of a free kick that we'd ever had but I think Wilson tops him. He was that good for us ? who cares about Bournemouth? Totally different footballs though. I would like to see what prime Hinton or Rioch would have done with modern day footballs. I bet you that Beckham wouldn’t have “bent a water sodden casey ” ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 42 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Without thinking back too much, I can think of at least 6 of his goals that we free kicks of penalties. Without wishing to be overly pedantic, 6 out of 18 isn’t ‘most’. And we shouldn’t use his outstanding free kick ability to detract from our assessment of his ability. It’s very much part of his game, and it certainly shouldn’t be discounted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 "Harry Wilson, he's probably worth £1.5m" and he'd be ours by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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