ram59 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I was having a similar discussion with a Villa mate of mine, yesterday. I asked him, already knowing the answer, who their 2 best players were this season. Grealish and McGinn was the answer, who played the previous season. What about the £130 million they spent on other players? I don't think any of them are worth the money Villa paid for them, it puts our spending in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, ram59 said: I was having a similar discussion with a Villa mate of mine, yesterday. I asked him, already knowing the answer, who their 2 best players were this season. Grealish and McGinn was the answer, who played the previous season. What about the £130 million they spent on other players? I don't think any of them are worth the money Villa paid for them, it puts our spending in the shade. The crucial differential being that they will have played 2 seasons in the Premiership with all of the associated financial rewards whereas we have failed to do so. Massive amount of difference. If our spending had realised the intended results then the justifications wouldn't be so hard to back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 38 minutes ago, ram59 said: I asked him, already knowing the answer, who their 2 best players were this season. Grealish and McGinn was the answer, who played the previous season. What about the £130 million they spent on other players? I don't think any of them are worth the money Villa paid for them, it puts our spending in the shade. They axed their sporting director as his transfers were dissapointing. "Villa were committed to a full review of their transfer policy after spending £118m on new players last summer, many of whom failed to meet expectations" https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53565870 Tyler is right, when you are in the Premier you have a much bigger pot to dip into, but it's not bottomless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, ram59 said: I was having a similar discussion with a Villa mate of mine, yesterday. I asked him, already knowing the answer, who their 2 best players were this season. Grealish and McGinn was the answer, who played the previous season. What about the £130 million they spent on other players? I don't think any of them are worth the money Villa paid for them, it puts our spending in the shade. I think they bought a few decent players. wesley from Bruges will turn out to be a good player. similarly bjorn Engels (Although he did do his cruciate ligament). It’s not that easy to buy the right players for low money. Norwich had little or no success. West Ham always struggle to buy decent players. Watford have failed. Even sheff Utd might get some comeuppance : Robinson £8m?, And that bloke with his socks around his ankles for 16m? Now after John swift for £3.5m?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Grumpy Git said: Despite his terrible form / injuries this year, i would take Marriott with a leg missing before Lawrence. He must be one of the most overrated buys of recent years. I know he always gets picked, but he's not had much opposition for a place until recently. It's a good job he didn't take up boxing I suppose? Who overrates Lawrence? Hardly ever see a good thing said about him. 10 goals and 5 assists from 40 games this season. That's compared to 11 goals and 6 assists from Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Who overrates Lawrence? Hardly ever see a good thing said about him. 10 goals and 5 assists from 40 games this season. That's compared to 11 goals and 6 assists from Martin. What's that comparison got to do with anything? Striker with more goals than a winger? Lawrence has more goals and assists than our fullbacks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 11 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: You can also say that Zoon has also been a waste of money to a lesser extent but still a few million quid shelled out on someone who hasn't justified their transfer fee. Keogh, Martin and Bryson have probably been our best value for money signings which seem such a long time ago now is depressing. Whoever is in charge of our recruitment seriously wants reaming out if someone hasn't already done it. Tom Ince ? Plenty of goals and good sell on ? Vydra the same ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Tom Ince ? Plenty of goals and good sell on ? Vydra the same ? To every rule there are always exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Who overrates Lawrence? Hardly ever see a good thing said about him. 10 goals and 5 assists from 40 games this season. That's compared to 11 goals and 6 assists from Martin. Just out of curiosity, how many games was that from? Admittedly I'm too lazy to Google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: Just out of curiosity, how many games was that from? Admittedly I'm too lazy to Google it. Martin made 35 appearances compared to Lawrence's 37. Although the difference in minutes played is about 12 games worth. TL isn't a striker though (and was our 2nd highest rated player on whoscored this season - to interact with earlier Lawrence comments in this thread). The minutes per goal comparison with Martin is more damning for Waghorn than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Srg said: What's that comparison got to do with anything? Striker with more goals than a winger? Lawrence has more goals and assists than our fullbacks too. Erm it shows that our overrated winger, who many see as a waste of money who should be sold immediately, has only 1 less goal and 1 less assist than our main striker whom, I regularly see it reported on here, has the best rate for contribution to goals in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Steve How Hard? said: Just out of curiosity, how many games was that from? Admittedly I'm too lazy to Google it. 40 appearances for both but 3448 minutes for Lawrence against 2536 minutes for Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Let's just face it, they are both much more productive than their detractors would have us believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, angieram said: Let's just face it, they are both much more productive than their detractors would have us believe. I bought it was a comparison on who is more frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Does all interest become public knowledge? Let’s say for example, Bristol City give Bogle’s agent a call to ask how he’s doing. Agent then rings Bogle who says I’m doing great but thanks for asking. That’s that. It’s so hard to even know what is genuine interest, look at all the players we’ve been “linked” with already, journalists throwing clubs names in to get clicks on their stories. Maybe I’m getting old and boring but been through so many transfer windows now, I look forward to deadline day not for the yellow ties, but because it’s almost over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, David said: Does all interest become public knowledge? Let’s say for example, Bristol City give Bogle’s agent a call to ask how he’s doing. Agent then rings Bogle who says I’m doing great but thanks for asking. That’s that. It’s so hard to even know what is genuine interest, look at all the players we’ve been “linked” with already, journalists throwing clubs names in to get clicks on their stories. Maybe I’m getting old and boring but been through so many transfer windows now, I look forward to deadline day not for the yellow ties, but because it’s almost over. Jim White has really gone off the boil recently.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, David said: Does all interest become public knowledge? Let’s say for example, Bristol City give Bogle’s agent a call to ask how he’s doing. Agent then rings Bogle who says I’m doing great but thanks for asking. That’s that. It’s so hard to even know what is genuine interest, look at all the players we’ve been “linked” with already, journalists throwing clubs names in to get clicks on their stories. Maybe I’m getting old and boring but been through so many transfer windows now, I look forward to deadline day not for the yellow ties, but because it’s almost over. Also, for every month long transfer saga there’s about ten signings that happen in the course of a week or less. No speculation about us signing Malone or Holmes, the first we knew of them was on the day it happened. Waghorn was smiling next to a Derby shirt a couple days after we were first linked to him. Even the Rooney signings happened in the blink of an eye. You are definitely getting old though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: You are definitely getting old though. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Why oh why can't anybody but anybody become really really become interested in someone WE desperately want to get rid of preferably for decent fee as well. It's that to wishfully thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rab a dab doo said: Why oh why can't anybody but anybody become really really become interested in someone WE desperately want to get rid of preferably for decent fee as well. It's that to wishfully thinking We could contact Dortmund and see if they still want Malone. They have just spent 25 million on a very ordinary young player from Birmingham so it appears they have an eccentric loon in charge of the purse strings. Worth a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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