Ambitious Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 3 hours ago, RamNut said: Maybe we are too critical roos has the second best rating of keepers who have played at least 10 games. I've just said this in the Phillips thread - the only thing hindering Roos here is that he has a tendency to punch rather than catch. Eric Steele has hung Ed Dawes out to dry on occasion where Ed has berated Roos for punching and Eric, with his experience, has explained why he did it. Ed is like most Derby fans, Eric is arguably the top goalkeeping coach this country has seen in the last 20 years. Phillips also has a tendency to punch - I really think he would suffer the same fate. In order to appease the fans it would have to be someone who will try and catch the ball more often than not. Roos, if he were to leave this summer, would go with a similar goals conceded and clean sheet record to what Carson had in his time with Derby. I wouldn't say that was bad. In terms of a Championship club looking for value in signing a goalkeeper then I would say Roos would be a great option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, angieram said: And that's somewhere in the middle? You talk as if you can only get promoted with a world class goalkeeper, which would suggest what's in front of him might be a bit of a problem anyway. I would absolutely agree with this Angie. Our defensive players have not looked like a unit all season. They mill around at 6's and 7's seemingly individually and collectively unsure whether to harry, tackle or block. The defensive lines aren't straight, people make very inconsistent decisions. I literally have no idea from watching clips like the Fulham one what on earth our defence is being trained to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: I guess Roos didn't play an important part in us reaching the 2019 playoff final then ?♂️ Both CBs had recently rushed back from injury. 3rd choice LB (Malone suspended, Fozzy injured) Waghorn rushed back from injury Marriott struggling with injuries Bennett couldn't last a full 90 Holmes and Nugent also injured Maybe if one or more of those weren't the case Roos would have been good enough? Think Roos made a load of good saves in that Bristol match we won 2-0. Great away day last season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Brian Clough said you build a successful team from the back and he ought to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Theres’s Only Wan Chope said: How many big mistakes ? There’s literally people screaming at him to catch a cross in pouring rain with a load of players in a crowd, instead of punching. Hope you’re not one of them! I think some Derby fans are so fickle, sarcastically applauding Roos catching a ball etc. He’s made loads of good saves for us and he may have made some mistakes but that’s not a reason for people to constantly moan and shout abuse at our own player. I’ve never said or condoned any ironic cheers I have never done that myself but fact is he made lots of errors not just Wembley ...I wasn’t alone or why was he dropped ...he’s not the answer we need better but he is a good number 2 just not consistent enough or commanding enough to be our number1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Ravas certainly won’t like that article. He’s SLOVAKIAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Cardiff’s second keeper is pretty good Etheridge, always been impressed by him, if he played in a warnock team he clearly needed to claim a cross. Bettonelli at Fulham would be a good signing too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, DCFC27 said: Cardiff’s second keeper is pretty good Etheridge, always been impressed by him, if he played in a warnock team he clearly needed to claim a cross. Bettonelli at Fulham would be a good signing too Did Cardiff, under Warnock, cross into their own box? And we think passing across the back is risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelovebelow Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Should have kept Zuby working with Carson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 For £20 we could send Hamer and Roos............keeper problem sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Trolling from Amazon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 so Presumably Carson is back as our no1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Is Che Given to goal keeping coaching what Kevin Phillips was to striker coaching? Anyway, I'm all for giving a new keeper a chance, be it Ravas or a signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 10 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Is Che Given to goal keeping coaching what Kevin Phillips was to striker coaching? Anyway, I'm all for giving a new keeper a chance, be it Ravas or a signing. Any relation to Che Guevara? Now that’s a revolutionary thought! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 I'd be quite happy for Carson to return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 28/07/2020 at 10:51, Ambitious said: I've just said this in the Phillips thread - the only thing hindering Roos here is that he has a tendency to punch rather than catch. Eric Steele has hung Ed Dawes out to dry on occasion where Ed has berated Roos for punching and Eric, with his experience, has explained why he did it. Ed is like most Derby fans, Eric is arguably the top goalkeeping coach this country has seen in the last 20 years. Phillips also has a tendency to punch - I really think he would suffer the same fate. In order to appease the fans it would have to be someone who will try and catch the ball more often than not. Roos, if he were to leave this summer, would go with a similar goals conceded and clean sheet record to what Carson had in his time with Derby. I wouldn't say that was bad. In terms of a Championship club looking for value in signing a goalkeeper then I would say Roos would be a great option. My issue with Roos is that I don’t mind the punching, it’s the done thing for most modern goalkeepers and as you say if Steele says it’s the right choice then I’d trust him over any other Derby fan. My issue is that when he punches it his wrists turn into jelly and the desired effect isn’t achieved. If he spends all summer with those grip things you squeeze to build your forearms up and spends time watching top top keepers punching the ball and he gets better at getting it out of the danger zone then I’m fine with punching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, IlsonDerby said: My issue with Roos is that I don’t mind the punching, it’s the done thing for most modern goalkeepers and as you say if Steele says it’s the right choice then I’d trust him over any other Derby fan. My issue is that when he punches it his wrists turn into jelly and the desired effect isn’t achieved. If he spends all summer with those grip things you squeeze to build your forearms up and spends time watching top top keepers punching the ball and he gets better at getting it out of the danger zone then I’m fine with punching it. My impression is that he doesn't want to risk his pretty boy looks. He is therefore extending his arms to punch whilst withdrawing his head. It's virtually impossible to get any power into a punch if your neck is bent back. He just needs to get a bit braver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 If Carson had been a loan signing for the 2018/19 & first half of 29/20 season few would look at his performances and have any qualms about sending him back to sit on the bench at his parent club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 02/08/2020 at 00:04, RamNut said: so Presumably Carson is back as our no1 I hope not. Worse than Roos at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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