Ghost of Clough Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: 18 goals, mind. That would be nice. Played mostly on the wing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, GenBr said: We paid £3 mill for Blackman who got 11 goals in half a season - whoever is paying £15 mill for a guy who has had one alright season in the Championship needs to give their head a wobble. As long as it isn't us offering that kind of money it will be fun to laugh at another club paying such ludicrous transfer fees for a change. I'm guessing it can't be anyone other than one of the parachute sides offering that kind of money though - maybe Stoke. Isn't it Stoke's last parachute season? Having flirted with relegation all season surely that would be risky wages wise? They must have some fairly hefty wages still on their books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, richinspain said: Isn't it Stoke's last parachute season? Having flirted with relegation all season surely that would be risky wages wise? They must have some fairly hefty wages still on their books. Final year but I don’t think they could afford it with the size of their wage bill. West Brom, Brentford or even Bristol would be my guesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Final year but I don’t think they could afford it with the size of their wage bill. West Brom, Brentford or even Bristol would be my guesses. 10 hours ago, richinspain said: Isn't it Stoke's last parachute season? Having flirted with relegation all season surely that would be risky wages wise? They must have some fairly hefty wages still on their books. I dont think Bristol is in the running unless they sell someone for big money - they operate similar to us these days - selling to buy. If we're discounting Stoke for high wages and last year of parachute payments we can't be including West Brom either then - or Fulham for that matter. I'd be surprised if it were Brentford as well - doesn't fit their model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, GenBr said: I dont think Bristol is in the running unless they sell someone for big money - they operate similar to us these days - selling to buy. £12.7m profit it 18/19. Similar again in 19/20 after making big profits off Webster, Kelly and Brownhill. A lot of spare cash for them to splurge on a big playoff push. 5 minutes ago, GenBr said: If we're discounting Stoke for high wages and last year of parachute payments we can't be including West Brom either then - or Fulham for that matter. Stoke's high wage bill means they've probably only just stayed within P&S limits for the current period. They can't sell a lot of their players without making a loss, making their P&S situation even worse! They'll need to make serious cuts just to make it next season. Fulham similar. West Brom however, are much more financially stable, having cut their wages significantly more than Stoke after dropping to the Championship. Made a 6.6m loss in their first season back at this level and it'll be similar this season - quite a bit of legroom for one big signing. Probably with the view that they're already promoted as well. 5 minutes ago, GenBr said: I'd be surprised if it were Brentford as well - doesn't fit their model. One of the only other sides with enough P&S legroom to make a signing of this size. Fits the style of player they want. With the chances Brentford create he'll score more than he has this season at Huddersfield, and his value will only got up. They got £20m for Maupay, and would get more for Grant even if they stay in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 The Cowleys might end up at Birmingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: £12.7m profit it 18/19. Similar again in 19/20 after making big profits off Webster, Kelly and Brownhill. A lot of spare cash for them to splurge on a big playoff push. Stoke's high wage bill means they've probably only just stayed within P&S limits for the current period. They can't sell a lot of their players without making a loss, making their P&S situation even worse! They'll need to make serious cuts just to make it next season. Fulham similar. West Brom however, are much more financially stable, having cut their wages significantly more than Stoke after dropping to the Championship. Made a 6.6m loss in their first season back at this level and it'll be similar this season - quite a bit of legroom for one big signing. Probably with the view that they're already promoted as well. One of the only other sides with enough P&S legroom to make a signing of this size. Fits the style of player they want. With the chances Brentford create he'll score more than he has this season at Huddersfield, and his value will only got up. They got £20m for Maupay, and would get more for Grant even if they stay in the Championship. I don't agree RE - Brentford - unless they are planning on abandoning the model that has worked so successfully for them so far I see very little chance that they will splurge £15 mill on one player unless it is split into addons, etc. I am well aware of Bristols transfer activity that's why I said I'd be surprised if they spend so much money on one player without already having a big sale lined up. They are a well run club and don't look to make significant losses on transfers - perhaps with the change of manager this will be different, but still can't see it myself. West Broms wage bill was still almost £50 mill in 18/19 - Stokes was only slightly higher than that - it doesn't leave them with a lot of wiggle room with the reduction in parachute payments. The only thing in their favour is that they made a profit on transfers unlike Stoke who spunked it all away on Gary Rowett signings. They will still have to find another £17 mill from somewhere when parachutes drop - I doubt they can then also spend £15 mill on a transfer unless they make significant sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, GenBr said: I don't agree RE - Brentford - unless they are planning on abandoning the model that has worked so successfully for them so far I see very little chance that they will splurge £15 mill on one player unless it is split into addons, etc. I am well aware of Bristols transfer activity that's why I said I'd be surprised if they spend so much money on one player without already having a big sale lined up. They are a well run club and don't look to make significant losses on transfers - perhaps with the change of manager this will be different, but still can't see it myself. West Broms wage bill was still almost £50 mill in 18/19 - Stokes was only slightly higher than that - it doesn't leave them with a lot of wiggle room with the reduction in parachute payments. The only thing in their favour is that they made a profit on transfers unlike Stoke who spunked it all away on Gary Rowett signings. They will still have to find another £17 mill from somewhere when parachutes drop - I doubt they can then also spend £15 mill on a transfer unless they make significant sales. Based on my calculations, these are the clubs in a better P&S situation than West Brom: Boro, Derby, Blackburn, Charlton, QPR, Preston, Brentford, Millwall, Bristol, Barnsley, Luton. I think we can instantly dismiss a number of those. If not West Brom, Brentford, or Bristol, I can't see who it would be. In P&S terms, West Brom were approximately £65m better off than Stoke for the 2019 period, with similar projected for 2020. It would take a miracle for Stoke to turn things around so considerably that they can then go out and spend another £15m on a player. It could be is Birmingham once they've sold Bellingham, or Leeds although after spending a massive chunk of their money for next season already (£30m on Costa and Augustin), it may be risky for them. It's certainly not Wigan or Hull. Fulham, Cardiff, Forest, and Reading too close to the limits. Wednesday and Derby won't commit to that without knowing the verdict from their hearings. Swansea going in to their final parachute season and will continue to cut costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Leeds. p.s. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12168590/cowley-sacked-huddersfield-championship-safety/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 17 hours ago, rustylee said: So much for Covid putting a brake on transfer prices if a championship club is paying £15 million for Grant. Norwich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase116 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Tbf grant scored a few in the premier when he signed for them, pretty consistent goalscorer, will be interesting to see who has bid 15 million tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 18 hours ago, RamNut said: Leeds. p.s. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12168590/cowley-sacked-huddersfield-championship-safety/ I clicked on the link of LUTV hot presenter and saw this incredible tweet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, ariotofmyown said: I clicked on the link of LUTV hot presenter and saw this incredible tweet... Grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 19/07/2020 at 20:31, rustylee said: So much for Covid putting a brake on transfer prices if a championship club is paying £15 million for Grant. Colin Gibson: Karlan Grant, welcome to Derby County! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 21/07/2020 at 08:09, ariotofmyown said: I clicked on the link of LUTV hot presenter and saw this incredible tweet... Bobby looks like he's just had an eyeful! ? I mean really........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 21/07/2020 at 08:09, ariotofmyown said: I clicked on the link of LUTV hot presenter and saw this incredible tweet... I’d still ask Bobby to get his kit on even at his age. As for her ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 21/07/2020 at 08:09, ariotofmyown said: I clicked on the link of LUTV hot presenter and saw this incredible tweet... I’d love to spend a night with her... talking about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Some ill-informed speculation i came across on LTLF, when checking in for schadenfreude reasons. The idea was that Lamouchi may go to watford and then Forest might consider either Pearson or the Cowleys..... Hilarious ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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