TomG Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Curtains said: I think Derby should issue a Statement ASAP I think Derby should Suit the EFL ASAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Wolfie20 said: Face-saving on behalf of the EFL? I agree but amortisation policy is the EFLs line of appeal but the auditors signed it off so how can they not see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeS Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Have they? The Disciplinary Panel basically found there was no case to answer and dismissed the charges. I think that now the EFL have launched an appeal, it goes forward to an Independant Panel for adjudication. The make up of that panel will be extremely interesting. It feels like all or nothing for the EFL, a last throw of the dice. The Disciplinary Panel was an independent commission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, TomG said: I think Derby should Suit the EFL ASAP! As in make them all wear clown suits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslaar Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: I'm not totally sure, but I think I've read somewhere in the leagues regulation's that a condition of membership is you won't take legal action against the governing body. Your prob right mate I'm just venting lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: As in make them all wear clown suits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I'm hoping we do put a statement out. Be strange just not to comment at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 This is what West Brom’s ex Chief Exec thinks of the EFL: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54046448 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@M Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, TomG said: You'd like to think that the EFL's legal team, such as it is, would advise them against taking this action. EFL “legal team, do you think we should pursue this, we will of course pay you with money from the league’s clubs” Lawyers “we definitely think you should carry on the action, will it take 6 months like before? Here’s our retainer bill.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, R@M said: EFL “legal team, do you think we should pursue this, we will of course pay you with money from the league’s clubs” Lawyers “we definitely think you should carry on the action, will it take 6 months like before? Here’s our retainer bill.” If you're not part of the solution, there's money to be made in prolonging the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Can't sue the EFL over it because the suggestion that they've acted unlawfully or unfairly was thrown out as inadmissable, they were legally within their rights to do all the things they did. Now obviously, that doesn't mean they weren't being vindictive, or don't clearly hold a grudge and aren't singling us out because they're a feeble and pathetic bunch of bankers... it's just impossible to prove it in law because they've covered those particular bases with their past approaches and written rules - trying to be the ultimate jobsworths basically, but not quite managing it by not being diligent enough to employ someone on their behalf who could win the rest of the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Coconut said: Can't sue the EFL over it because the suggestion that they've acted unlawfully or unfairly was thrown out as inadmissable, they were legally within their rights to do all the things they did. Now obviously, that doesn't mean they weren't being vindictive, or don't clearly hold a grudge and aren't singling us out because they're a feeble and pathetic bunch of bankers... it's just impossible to prove it in law because they've covered those particular bases with their past approaches and written rules - trying to be the ultimate jobsworths basically, but not quite managing it by not being diligent enough to employ someone on their behalf who could win the rest of the case. Just because the legal defences were dismissed by the independent panel doesn’t mean they’ll also be dismissed by a court of law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, David said: Pretty sure I've seen somewhere that the Premier League are not interested in a second league, understandable really as it's governed by the bigger clubs that wouldn't want to share the revenue across another league A Premier League 2 doesn't have to infringe on the Premier League or be named so. Picture the Championship breaking off from the football league and clubs only going up and down 1 league. Premier League and 'Premier League 2'. Completely different broadcast deal and sponsorship. Bigger PL clubs couldn't care less. But many PL sides have not only been in the Championship but in the leagues below. Many PL clubs have not been relegated to the Championship, but get close to relegation to it. The gulf between the two is far too large and would be even more so once the PL has it's own streaming platform. Many clubs in in this league currently, are in favour of this breakaway. PL2 isn't about sharing revenue, it's as Mel has highlighted, the EFL deals are absolute poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAccessMemory Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, Coconut said: Can't sue the EFL over it because the suggestion that they've acted unlawfully or unfairly was thrown out as inadmissable, they were legally within their rights to do all the things they did. Now obviously, that doesn't mean they weren't being vindictive, or don't clearly hold a grudge and aren't singling us out because they're a feeble and pathetic bunch of bankers... it's just impossible to prove it in law because they've covered those particular bases with their past approaches and written rules - trying to be the ultimate jobsworths basically, but not quite managing it by not being diligent enough to employ someone on their behalf who could win the rest of the case. When the charges were dismissed because they found we didn't actually do anything wrong, not because we won a legal argument, surely the fact that we didn't have to rely on those legal arguments makes our case against them stronger? If the EFL had performed their investigation competently in the first place they would have found that out and wouldn't have charged us and this whole thing could have been avoided. They'd also already effectively punished us to some extent by having us under a soft embargo which they had to remove when they found they were wrong and we hadn't broken their rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Uptherams said: A Premier League 2 doesn't have to infringe on the Premier League or be named so. Picture the Championship breaking off from the football league and clubs only going up and down 1 league. Premier League and 'Premier League 2'. Completely different broadcast deal and sponsorship. Bigger PL clubs couldn't care less. But many PL sides have not only been in the Championship but in the leagues below. Many PL clubs have not been relegated to the Championship, but get close to relegation to it. The gulf between the two is far too large and would be even more so once the PL has it's own streaming platform. Many clubs in in this league currently, are in favour of this breakaway. PL2 isn't about sharing revenue, it's as Mel has highlighted, the EFL deals are absolute poo. A breakaway is dependant on the Premier League choosing the new league over the EFL. It would take a big shift for that to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Saunder’s hat trick Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 This doesn’t bode well. It seems the majority of times, an appeal always ends up with the opposite outcome to the first decision. And how bloomin long is though now going to drag on far? Presumably, if the appeal then works in the EFLs favour we can then appeal a change of decision for something that’s clearly, already been independently decided in our favour? what a load of ball bags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 So basically the EFL want us to face some punishment for not clarifying a policy they by default approved despite the fact we had a soft embargo in place for 8 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Uptherams Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: A breakaway is dependant on the Premier League choosing the new league over the EFL. It would take a big shift for that to happen If the clubs are onboard, it's a done deal. I think people are overestimating the EFL's power and influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: This is what West Brom’s ex Chief Exec thinks of the EFL: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54046448 "At one meeting about the the TV contract, one person said: 'There is an argument if it is not broken, don't fix it.' I couldn't believe it. Of course it was broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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