Srg Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: Not as a right sided CB No, you’d play him on the left. But now you’ve reminded me of Evans, it should be him. Rather play a kid than Davies. Davies would change the whole game plan and we would certainly be hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, sage said: I think Evans could come in. Especially if we aren't up against a big CF. I think Evans is pretty good in the air. Its his pace that would concern me so he'll need be sharp positionally Its clear we need our CBs to be able to play & Evans can definitely do that - the ideal replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, LeedsCityRam said: I think Evans is pretty good in the air. Its his pace that would concern me so he'll need be sharp positionally Its clear we need our CBs to be able to play & Evans can definitely do that - the ideal replacement He is quicker than Davies but not as strong in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, sage said: He is quicker than Davies but not as strong in the air. I mean that statue of Clough in the car park is quicker than Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Sparkle said: So a couple of defenders scoring in the next two games getting us two 1-0 wins is acceptable then? Absolutely. Especially if we only had 21 percent possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 49 minutes ago, Seaside Ram said: Especially in the city of jolly , witty, salt of the earth scousers ! Was there with work for three weeks in January. Hated the place. It's up there with Shotts, North Lanarkshire in my list of "places that can get to f..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Evans played very well at centre back a year ago but cocu has shown little or no inclination to play him there. and he even dropped him from the squad in favour of huddz on Saturday. it will be Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, sage said: I think Evans could come in. Especially if we aren't up against a big CF. Preston offer very little up front.* Even Stockley, who is their target man cannot jump (as a 6'4" white man I can sympathise). *Their goal threat is from midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 7 hours ago, RamNut said: Evans played very well at centre back a year ago but cocu has shown little or no inclination to play him there. and he even dropped him from the squad in favour of huddz on Saturday. it will be Davies. I'm hoping that's down to a couple of factors... Cocu think's Huddlestone is a better CM Cocu wanted Davies on the bench as an option to see a game out If this is the case, then it's possible Cocu thinks Evans is the better option from the start of the game when we want to play out from the back and want to control the game. Davies to come in to do the 'head it, clear it' role which he has done in the last 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: ...then it's possible Cocu thinks Evans is the better option from the start of the game when we want to play out from the back and want to control the game. Davies to come in to do the 'head it, clear it' role which he has done in the last 4 games. Can't believe anyone would rather start Evans at the back over Davies. We could play it out a little less or via Clarke. A more than decent centre half over a very ordinary undecided positional player?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Will Hughes Hair said: Preston offer very little up front.* Even Stockley, who is their target man cannot jump (as a 6'4" white man I can sympathise). *Their goal threat is from midfield. TBF Jimmy Krankie could score headers with our marking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Can't believe anyone would rather start Evans at the back over Davies. We could play it out a little less or via Clarke. A more than decent centre half over a very ordinary undecided positional player?! It's become very clear that Davies isn't a ball playing centre half hence cocu has decided to make wisdom first choice. Evans has done well when he has played there and fits the role much better. Davies is a head it, kick it type. If we play him from the start, all of a sudden our game changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Can't believe anyone would rather start Evans at the back over Davies. We could play it out a little less or via Clarke. A more than decent centre half over a very ordinary undecided positional player?! Evans for me. He did well there a year ago and despite how much I like him and how good he is in the air Davies is too slow, isn't good bringing the ball out and has got a little prone to giving the ball away too easily. Was it Bristol last year when our hearts sank as Evans had to come on and fill in at CB but did a good job that day and every game since (admittedly not a lot) that he played that position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Can't believe anyone would rather start Evans at the back over Davies. We could play it out a little less or via Clarke. A more than decent centre half over a very ordinary undecided positional player?! Quicker than Davies - vital when playing a high line Calmer on the ball and better passer - vital to playing out from the back Gmaes vs Bristol, Swansea, Man Utd, and in pre-season - couldn't expect more from a CB in these games. Didn't concede with him at CB last season. Goals vs Man Utd were down to Fozzy at CB and a lucky deflection off Lingard's backside. Positioning and aerial ability are slightly worse... although you'd expect better for Millwall's 2nd goal. The Forest, Cardiff and Birmingham game's may suit Davies more and we may see him start those games. Evans must start for me in the others until Wisdom returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 Our lack of quality in depth is really going to be tested now. What side/subs can we put out on Wednesday? Hamer Bogle Evans Clarke Lowe Rooney Bird Holmes Sibley Josefzoon Martin Subs - Roos Forsyth Davies Shinnie Knight and the creche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, sage said: Our lack of quality in depth is really going to be tested now. What side/subs can we put out on Wednesday? Hamer Bogle Evans Clarke Lowe Rooney Bird Holmes Sibley Josefzoon Martin Subs - Roos Forsyth Davies Shinnie Knight and the creche I’d drop bird for that performance (Probably for shinnie) i didn’t think jozefzoon added much but he still managed to be an improvement because we were so lacking in anything creative we’ve run out of players, especially with the u23s not playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, RamNut said: I’d drop bird for that performance (Probably for shinnie) i didn’t think jozefzoon added much but he still managed to be an improvement because we were so lacking in anything creative we’ve run out of players, especially with the u23s not playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamGer Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, RamNut said: I’d drop bird for that performance (Probably for shinnie) i didn’t think jozefzoon added much but he still managed to be an improvement because we were so lacking in anything creative we’ve run out of players, especially with the u23s not playing Agree with this. Bird has done well but I think derbies call for experience and Shinnie is an international player and captained his last two clubs. I think we lacked experience from the start today and that showed when some older heads came on in second half. Not for a minute suggesting we throw our young talent under the bus they've been brilliant for us, but high pressure games coming up may call for greater experience where available (i.e. when the older heads can keep themselves on the pitch!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I don't think West Brom will be trying to nullify our midfield and there will be plenty of room for Bird and Rooney. I am more worried about how we will defend against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 53 minutes ago, RamNut said: I’d drop bird for that performance (Probably for shinnie) i didn’t think jozefzoon added much but he still managed to be an improvement because we were so lacking in anything creative we’ve run out of players, especially with the u23s not playing I think Bird looked like one of the few players likely to get something going today. Not his best performance by any stretch but he's arguably been our best player since January and dropping him for Shinnie (who I think is a worse player) would be a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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