RadioactiveWaste Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, TigerTedd said: now we know Hawkeye is falible, Hawkeye has been known to be fallible in other sports for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Gaspode said: So why did the ref point at his watch and his earpiece if he wasn’t ducking his responsibilities? He even has a screen at the side of the pitch that he could have looked at, but he decided to play on because the tech didn’t tell him to stop. The ref should be deciding when he needs help to make a decision and using all of the tools at his disposal to make the right decision - last night he failed to do that - mainly as a result of the way VAR has been implemented to oversee him rather than help.... My thoughts exactly. Should've known the players wouldn't have appealed if they weren't sure. as normally they'd be wasting their time. Could've just halted the game, checked the pitch side monitor, then given the goal, would've taken 60 seconds. They have to assume more responsibility. Same goes for those sat in the VAR bunker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, ramsbottom said: My thoughts exactly. Should've known the players wouldn't have appealed if they weren't sure. as normally they'd be wasting their time. Could've just halted the game, checked the pitch side monitor, then given the goal, would've taken 60 seconds. They have to assume more responsibility. Same goes for those sat in the VAR bunker. Really? They appeal for everything ffs! The ref wouldn't have known there was anything 'wrong' no buzz, no word from VAR (that was why he tapped his earpiece, no?). But the guys in the VAR booth have no excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Really? They appeal for everything ffs! The ref wouldn't have known there was anything 'wrong' no buzz, no word from VAR (that was why he tapped his earpiece, no?). But the guys in the VAR booth have no excuse. Players know not to bother with goal line stuff nowadays as they know it's, supposedly, infallible. Look at any goal line incident over the past few seasons and there's a token appeal at best. Last night they all knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 It seems the only person who knew for sure, kept his eyes and gob shut, and took a deep breath, as he was literally holding the ball behind the bloody post, trying to avoid getting entangled on the inside of the side netting! He could play for us, he was so bloody sheepish! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Gaspode said: So why did the ref point at his watch and his earpiece if he wasn’t ducking his responsibilities? He even has a screen at the side of the pitch that he could have looked at, but he decided to play on because the tech didn’t tell him to stop. The ref should be deciding when he needs help to make a decision and using all of the tools at his disposal to make the right decision - last night he failed to do that - mainly as a result of the way VAR has been implemented to oversee him rather than help.... He was pointing out that he had no signal from the goal line technology and nothing from the VAR official. It was their responsibility not his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, sage said: He was pointing out that he had no signal from the goal line technology and nothing from the VAR official. It was their responsibility not his. And there's me thinking that the ref is responsible for enforcing the laws of the game. If he had any doubt in his mind, he had trhe absolute right to stop the game and check - he failed to do that (because of his incorrect belief that the technology cannot get things wrong) so cannot be absolved of all blame as you seem to think. I have a lot of sympathy for refs due to the farcical way that VAR has been implemented (I said at the beginning of this experiment that the ref should have the discretion to use the technology when he sees fit (unless he and his assistants miss an obvious off the ball incident) rather than be subservient to a remote referee and a video camera), but the buck has to stop somehwere and last nights catalogue of errors was ultimately for Michael Oliver (by far one of the best refs around) to sort out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 And another thing... that giant multi-screen wotsit immediately behind the goal at Citeh, showing a couple of dozen Sat-At-Home-Live-Faces... Cringeworthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 19 hours ago, ramsbottom said: Players know not to bother with goal line stuff nowadays as they know it's, supposedly, infallible. Look at any goal line incident over the past few seasons and there's a token appeal at best. Last night they all knew it. Problem is now they know it’s fallible, they’ll be appealing every incident and we’ll have more var stoppages just to double check it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) Slight delay as bloke forgot to press crowd cheer button for Saints 2nd goal ? Edited June 19, 2020 by TimRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 So we'll be playing Norwich next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: So we'll be playing Norwich next season You think they'll stay up then? ? AndyinLiverpool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: You think they'll stay up then? ? That’s the spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Roy Keane...ffs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Van Cone De Head said: Roy Keane...ffs!! Absolutely hilarious might be talking poo but hilarious. Coneheadjohn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Van Cone De Head said: Roy Keane...ffs!! Genuinely is he pissed? He sounds it. Coneheadjohn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 And he definitely hasn't had a lockdown haircut. Coneheadjohn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Roy Keane be like... Coneheadjohn and Mick Brolly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Genuinely is he pissed? He sounds it. I reckon you’re right. on De Gea, I’d fine him. I’d punch him. I wouldn’t let him get on the bus. I’m fed up with him...you don’t say Roy. Edited June 19, 2020 by Van Cone De Head Mick Brolly and Rev 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Throwing punches at the goalie is abit harsh Roy Keane ?? christ, it wasnt that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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