G STAR RAM Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Premier ram said: Sheffield Uniteds recruitment has been pretty spot on , picking up freebies and young lads looking for a break to launch a career , polishing them up and look where its got them Agreed but I put there success down to the manager rather than great recruitment. They've got some bang average players that the manager has got playing together as a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Depends what you call success? Look at what he was quoting maybe?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Dethorn said: Look at what he was quoting maybe?? Someone else who failed to define 'success' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Just read that Abdoul Camara had to retire on health grounds, don't remember seeing it mentioned on here. Carbon monoxide poisoning apparently from a dodgy Vauxhall Zafira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Agreed but I put there success down to the manager rather than great recruitment. They've got some bang average players that the manager has got playing together as a unit. Yes he mr wilder absolutely demands100% effort every game from every player and woe betide them if their standards drop.do we get that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Hardly bang average players pushing for champions league.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 5 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Just read that Abdoul Camara had to retire on health grounds, don't remember seeing it mentioned on here. Got a heart problem I believe which is obviously not good and I know I take the mickey out of his impact but seriously wish him all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Sam Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 5 hours ago, David said: The highly praised Brentford recruitment team have also failed then. i think we might have spent a bob or two more than them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Seaside Sam said: i think we might have spent a bob or two more than them We have, and as a result finished above them more times than not in the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Sam Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 hours ago, David said: We have, and as a result finished above them more times than not in the table. still same division though eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Seaside Sam said: still same division though eh? So our recruitment teams have achieved the same then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Seaside Sam said: still same division though eh? Well arguably, for all the money that's been spent we are no better off than when Nigel Clough was manager. Been a lot to entertain us along the way though, on and off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Dethorn said: Look at what he was quoting maybe?? I did. 2 teams, Derby and Brentford, 1 has spent millions trying to get to the prem and have so far failed (Derby), the other set out to simply make profit on their players and if they ever did make the Prem, bonus (Brentford). So far our recruitment has failed, their recruitment continues to succeed on its desired goal year on year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raich Carter Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, europia said: Well arguably, for all the money that's been spent we are no better off than when Nigel Clough was manager. Been a lot to entertain us along the way though, on and off the field. Sanity reigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 11 hours ago, Seaside Sam said: still same division though eh? Yes. But is that down to poor recruitment or poor management in big games? I didn’t become a football fan to look at the profit and losses on a player, I was and still am entertained by the game itself not balance sheets. You can argue the money could have been spend better, which it probably could have, but we have enjoyed 5 years of being in the mix at the top end of the table. Personally I have enjoyed it, this period is only second to Jim Smiths time at the club in my lifetime yet we have fans banging on like we’ve been suffering. We’ve come close to going up, agonisingly close, more so than the highly praised Brentford. I would love to hear other examples of excellent recruitment teams other than Brentford. 22 other clubs in this league, can’t be that hard to make others that have not wasted money, made a profit and consistently challenged at the top end of the table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, David said: I would love to hear other examples of excellent recruitment teams other than Brentford. 22 other clubs in this league, can’t be that hard to make others that have not wasted money, made a profit and consistently challenged at the top end of the table? Already asked the question yesterday. Have no problem with people saying our recruitment team is poor but it would nice to know exactly what insight they have into how our recruitment team works, and who exactly they are being compared to when called poor. Brentford and Sheffield United are the only 2 answers so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, David said: Yes. But is that down to poor recruitment or poor management in big games? I didn’t become a football fan to look at the profit and losses on a player, I was and still am entertained by the game itself not balance sheets. You can argue the money could have been spend better, which it probably could have, but we have enjoyed 5 years of being in the mix at the top end of the table. Personally I have enjoyed it, this period is only second to Jim Smiths time at the club in my lifetime yet we have fans banging on like we’ve been suffering. We’ve come close to going up, agonisingly close, more so than the highly praised Brentford. I would love to hear other examples of excellent recruitment teams other than Brentford. 22 other clubs in this league, can’t be that hard to make others that have not wasted money, made a profit and consistently challenged at the top end of the table? Only a small number of clubs make a profit in this league, with only Hull and QPR doing so more than once since the 14/15 season. Derby are the only club to have finished in the top 6 whilst posting a profit for that season. Of the 13 occasions a club has reported profits: - 7 have been to clubs receiving parachute payments - 1 club was promoted from L1 the season before (Barnsley) - 2 sold their stadium (Derby, Sheff Weds), and another 2 have sold theirs since posting a profit (Reading, Birmingham) 2014/15 Reading - £2.6m (19th), parachute payments Cardiff - £3.8m (11th), parachute payments Birmingham - £1.3m (10th) 2015/16 QPR - £0.1m (12th), parachute payments 2016/17 Barnsley - £12.8m (14th), promoted from L1 Wigan - £4.3m (23rd), parachute payments Leeds - £1m (7th) QPR - £0.02m (18th), parachute payments 2017/18 Hull - £23.7m (18th), parachute payments Derby - £14.6m (6th) Preston - £2.3m (7th) Sheff Weds - £2.6m (15th) 2018/19 (confirmed) Hull - £2.5m (13th), parachute payments 2018/19 (estimated) Middlesbrough - £15.7m (7th), parachute payments Wigan - £5.2m (18th), promoted from L1 Preston - £5.4m (14th) Brentford - £25.3m (11th) Bristol - £12.7m (8th) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Already asked the question yesterday. Have no problem with people saying our recruitment team is poor but it would nice to know exactly what insight they have into how our recruitment team works, and who exactly they are being compared to when called poor. Brentford and Sheffield United are the only 2 answers so far. Preston do very well, Bristol in recent seasons have done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Preston do very well, Bristol in recent seasons have done well. Bournemouth in that time? Prior to promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh n Bake Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Preston do very well, Bristol in recent seasons have done well. Falls down to what you define as doing very well. Preston haven't made the Championship Playoffs since 2009. Many clubs on just as small budgets have achieved this, if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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