Ellafella Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Derby County wore white shirts for the very first time, beating Notts County 3-0 at home. 31 March 1888. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Did you attend? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, Cisse said: Did you attend? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I bet @loweman2 has a match worn, signed shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: I bet @loweman2 has a match worn, signed shirt. Anyone else wonders how bad his house must smell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, angieram said: Anyone else wonders how bad his house must smell? How insulting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 8 hours ago, Ellafella said: Derby County wore white shirts for the very first time, beating Notts County 3-0 at home. 31 March 1888. Ah oui.... I remember eet well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 And 131 years and 364 days since the kit man wished we'd stuck with the previous brown ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Has anyone been watching a new Netflix drama called the English Game about the early history of the FA Cup ? It featured a dramatised game between Darwen & Derby St Lukes in the 1880s. ( St Lukes played in white shirts & black shorts ?? ) A bit of research and there were 4 teams from Derby in the tournament during the 1880s - Derby County, Derby St Lukes, Derby Midland & Derby Junction. Derby Junction got beaten by WBA in the 1888 FA Cup semi final. Each team has a wikipedia page & apparently Derby Midland merged with Derby County in 1891 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, SamUltraRam said: Has anyone been watching a new Netflix drama called the English Game about the early history of the FA Cup ? It featured a dramatised game between Darwen & Derby St Lukes in the 1880s. ( St Lukes played in white shirts & black shorts ?? ) A bit of research and there were 4 teams from Derby in the tournament during the 1880s - Derby County, Derby St Lukes, Derby Midland & Derby Junction. Derby Junction got beaten by WBA in the 1888 FA Cup semi final. Each team has a wikipedia page & apparently Derby Midland merged with Derby County in 1891 That’s right @SamUltraRam. There are some threads in the Football Forum about this. Although Rams & Midland “merged” it was more the case that Midland were absorbed by Derby County. Midland were run by Derby Midland Railway and once professionalism was made legal by the FA in 1885, the Railway didn’t want to be distracted by the ramifications of paid footballers. Note that The English Game is not entirely factual - Darwen didn’t play St Luke’s in the Cup but they did play Derby Junction and actually Junction lost after the first tie finished 2-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 And heres the match report, though no mention of the team strips: The Athletic News, 3rd April, 1888 THE TWO "COVNTIIES" AGAIN. ONCE more Derby County proved themselves the superiors of Notts County on Saturday. I know it is no great feat to beat the Notts club nowadays, but they sent quite a strong combination to Derby, as will he perceived when I mention the names, viz.. Holland, Cursham , Morley*, Brown, Emmett, Warburton, Gunn, Wardle, Jackson, Harker, and H. B. Daft. Derby were also well represented, the only absentee being Lawrence, whose place was taken by Storer, the Butteries youth, who has occasionally played in the Derhys'hire cricket. eleven. The game at first was tolerably even, and then the wind got up. which gave Derby a considerable advantage. They pressed the Notts. defence a good deal, and though the goal was kept clear for a while, Williamson eventually put in a long shot, and the ball, bouncing up to the goal, Holland, who had plenty of time to deal with it. foolishly tried to punch —a mistake often made— the result being that the ball, having a bit of a twist on, escaped his hand and bounced through. Five minutes before change of ends, Plackett centred to Goodall, who headed a second point . After the cross over, the wind had dropped, and Derby found no great difficulty in keeping the game almost entirely in Notts quarters. Their play in front of goal was, however, indifferent—they did not seem to try much—and it was not till near the end that Bakewell muddling, Needham rushed up and made the game three to none, at which it remained to the end. Notts showed some combination in the first half, but in the second their play was very ragged, Gunn being quite useless. Morley was the hest man in their team. For the winners there was no very conspicuous ability shown, but the team played a good all-round game, and Storer gave a very creditable initial exhibition. * of course, this was Haydn Morley, son of William Morley, Founder of Derby County and Derby County's first ever signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 11 hours ago, Ellafella said: That’s right @SamUltraRam. There are some threads in the Football Forum about this. Although Rams & Midland “merged” it was more the case that Midland were absorbed by Derby County. Midland were run by Derby Midland Railway and once professionalism was made legal by the FA in 1885, the Railway didn’t want to be distracted by the ramifications of paid footballers. Note that The English Game is not entirely factual - Darwen didn’t play St Luke’s in the Cup but they did play Derby Junction and actually Junction lost after the first tie finished 2-2. Fergus Suter never won an FA Cup despite being in 4 finals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 55 minutes ago, Ellafella said: Gunn I believe that must be the Gunn from Gunn & Moore, famous for cricket bats. He played for Notts around that time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Gunn_(cricketer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 40 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: Fergus Suter never won an FA Cup despite being in 4 finals ? He appeared in four FA Cup finals and after Blackburn were runners-up to Old Etonians in 1882, he collected three winner's medals in 1884, 1885 and 1886. From Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, richinspain said: He appeared in four FA Cup finals and after Blackburn were runners-up to Old Etonians in 1882, he collected three winner's medals in 1884, 1885 and 1886. From Wikipedia. They kinda hatched the history to dramatise the series. Blackburn Olympia won it as the first working-class team in 1883, a year after Suter had moved to their rivals Blackburn Rovers and they'd lost to Old Etonians in the final. But yeah he won it 3 times afterwards, that wikipedia article has been edited since I last read it as it implied he hadn't ? They could have set themselves up perfectly for a second series if they'd lost in '82, watched their local rivals win in '83 and the gone on to finally win it in '84...and it'd be accurate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Ellafella said: And heres the match report, though no mention of the team strips: The Athletic News, 3rd April, 1888 THE TWO "COVNTIIES" AGAIN. ONCE more Derby County proved themselves the superiors of Notts County on Saturday. I know it is no great feat to beat the Notts club nowadays, but they sent quite a strong combination to Derby, as will he perceived when I mention the names, viz.. Holland, Cursham , Morley*, Brown, Emmett, Warburton, Gunn, Wardle, Jackson, Harker, and H. B. Daft. Derby were also well represented, the only absentee being Lawrence, whose place was taken by Storer, the Butteries youth, who has occasionally played in the Derhys'hire cricket. eleven. The game at first was tolerably even, and then the wind got up. which gave Derby a considerable advantage. They pressed the Notts. defence a good deal, and though the goal was kept clear for a while, Williamson eventually put in a long shot, and the ball, bouncing up to the goal, Holland, who had plenty of time to deal with it. foolishly tried to punch —a mistake often made— the result being that the ball, having a bit of a twist on, escaped his hand and bounced through. Five minutes before change of ends, Plackett centred to Goodall, who headed a second point . After the cross over, the wind had dropped, and Derby found no great difficulty in keeping the game almost entirely in Notts quarters. Their play in front of goal was, however, indifferent—they did not seem to try much—and it was not till near the end that Bakewell muddling, Needham rushed up and made the game three to none, at which it remained to the end. Notts showed some combination in the first half, but in the second their play was very ragged, Gunn being quite useless. Morley was the hest man in their team. For the winners there was no very conspicuous ability shown, but the team played a good all-round game, and Storer gave a very creditable initial exhibition. * of course, this was Haydn Morley, son of William Morley, Founder of Derby County and Derby County's first ever signing. I see Lawrence didn't start. ...I can't help wondering what year did the Joiners Arms opened! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: I see Lawrence didn't start. ...I can't help wondering what year did the Joiners Arms opened! ? Judging by the series, if it was for drink related activities it would be because he hadn't joined in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Keoghs great great grandfather always had a mistake in him.?⚽️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 On 31/03/2020 at 00:31, Ellafella said: Derby County wore white shirts for the very first time, beating Notts County 3-0 at home. 31 March 1888. No mention of blue shorts and red numbers which have always been the best and most distinctive Derby kit combination. *Hides before the inevitable flack comes in, but it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said: No mention of blue shorts and red numbers which have always been the best and most distinctive Derby kit combination. *Hides before the inevitable flack comes in, but it's true. I prefer the original one. This new colour is too boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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