Exit strategy

[G STAR RAM]

4 minutes ago, Paul71 said:

was never going to be any good,  I've seen the fake football shirts they sell, shocking.  

Ssshhh dont tell my lad they are fake.

He loves his Messy shirt.

[Steve How Hard?]

37 minutes ago, Paul71 said:

was never going to be any good,  I've seen the fake football shirts they sell, shocking.  

I jest you not but when I was in Turkey 20+ years ago we saw a sign very similar to the one below.

How the hell can you have a genuine fake watch? However I did buy a very nice Tag Huer watch at a very reasonable price.

[Sith Happens]

Just now, Steve How Hard? said:

I jest you not but when I was in Turkey 20+ years ago we saw a sign very similar to the one below.

How the hell can you have a genuine fake watch? However I did buy a very nice Tag Huer watch at a very reasonable price.

I got a genuine rolecks

[B4ev6is]

3 hours ago, Paul71 said:

if going back is achievable I would consider reducing the holiday to enable some catching up

Nope they already said they wont be touching that so thats why I think might as well give it off now.

[sage]

On 06/05/2020 at 18:48, sage said:

Fair enough. I think it is a bit like the ocean. We only see the surface and even scientists have only explored and understand 10% of it. 

What I will say is there has been a steady drip of positive/optimistic stories which has fed public confidence over the last week or so. I understand that there has to be a balance between safety and economic concerns but I fear we are being swept into a (too) early easing of restrictions. This is dangerous in itself but also even too much talk of it leads to people making individual hasty decisions. 

That opinion isn't school related specifically just a general point. 

 

It would seem that there has been a battle between Number 10 and others in the cabinet. Some cabinet members have been briefing papers that there will be major easing of restrictions announced on Sunday but Number 10 will announce more cautious smaller measures. 

The problem with this is expectations haven't been managed well and I can see an increased level of people breaking the rules. 

 

[Ghost of Clough]

5 hours ago, B4ev6is said:

Well in july they get 6 weeks holiday thats why I say no point then going back then.

Not going back would basically mean a 12 week holiday. That means students could go half a year without stepping foot inside a school! 
Summer holidays should be shortened to allow children to catch up.

[B4ev6is]

Well one parent said thats she rather send kids back in september.

[B4ev6is]

Or just give them more homework and then soon catch up.

[1of4]

1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Not going back would basically mean a 12 week holiday. That means students could go half a year without stepping foot inside a school! 
Summer holidays should be shortened to allow children to catch up.

Shortening the summer break won't be enough time for children to catch up on their studies.

Might as well cancel the year and make all the children redo the year and those that were due to start school in the autumn are also put back a year.

Everyone as to now work longer into old age before they can retire. So raising the school starting age could be an advantage.

[Angry Ram]

19 hours ago, ramsbottom said:

I'm merely commenting on our government's response to this situation, and in particular it's plans to bring the country out of this lockdown.  Which is, as far as I'm concerned incompetent...

This is for the other thread but unless I am mistaken, they have not announced anything yet.. You’ve come too soon.

[angieram]

9 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Not going back would basically mean a 12 week holiday. That means students could go half a year without stepping foot inside a school! 
Summer holidays should be shortened to allow children to catch up.

Is there anyone else thinks kids spending half a year with their families, learning how to make things at home, walks in nature, garden exercise, not getting everything they want on demand but getting love and attention and a bit of home cooking instead might be better for them in the long term than those few weeks in school that they miss? 

I know not all families are this lucky but my experience with the families that I am close too are that the kids are blooming (although the parents might be under strain!)

[Mucker1884]

4 minutes ago, angieram said:

Is there anyone else thinks kids spending half a year with their families, learning how to make things at home, walks in nature, garden exercise, not getting everything they want on demand but getting love and attention and a bit of home cooking instead might be better for them in the long term than those few weeks in school that they miss? 

I know not all families are this lucky but my experience with the families that I am close too are that the kids are blooming (although the parents might be under strain!)

Beautiful... in theory... but I'd hazard a guess you don't live on the same estate as me!  Quite a different picture entirely, around here, I'm sad to report!  ?

[1967Ram]

23 minutes ago, Angry Ram said:

This is for the other thread but unless I am mistaken, they have not announced anything yet.. You’ve come too soon.

I've done that ........ occasionally 

[ariotofmyown]

1 hour ago, Mucker1884 said:

Beautiful... in theory... but I'd hazard a guess you don't live on the same estate as me!  Quite a different picture entirely, around here, I'm sad to report!  ?

Are you talking about a housing estate? Or the sort of estate the landed gentry live on?

[Tamworthram]

1 hour ago, angieram said:

Is there anyone else thinks kids spending half a year with their families, learning how to make things at home, walks in nature, garden exercise, not getting everything they want on demand but getting love and attention and a bit of home cooking instead might be better for them in the long term than those few weeks in school that they miss? 

I know not all families are this lucky but my experience with the families that I am close too are that the kids are blooming (although the parents might be under strain!)

Personally, I can see the benefits but I'm not sure they outweigh the drawbacks of missing so much schooling (including not only the academic learning but also the social interaction with other children) to say it is better for them in the long run. 

[EtoileSportiveDeDerby]

Interesting comment from Arlene (grumpy) Foster who said that NI will carry on as is as they think their R number is around 0.8/0.9 as opposed to London around 0.5 as London would have had it earlier. Not sure how this stacks up since population and density of greater London is way bigger than NI. Would that mean that immunity rate in London is also higher than NI ? I wasn't really convinced tbh, perhaps someone can explain ? 

[rammieib]

13 hours ago, B4ev6is said:

Or just give them more homework and then soon catch up.

B4 - I don’t think you realise the harm for children having no interaction with other children for six months. I’m not talking about the learning, I’m talking about the social skills for children especially younger ones.

Then the one million primary school kids not at school, that’s circa one million parents not working, or it’s a million parents working and not spending quality time with the children.

Its not easy B4. No answer is right or wrong, just different viewpoints. Your opinion is just as worthy as my opinion if that makes sense. We just need to respect everyone’s opinion. 
 

Out of interest, how do you feel about going back to work if cinemas open up in July?

[Rev]

2 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

Are you talking about a housing estate? Or the sort of estate the landed gentry live on?

It's an estate where kids don't respect their parents, and those parents neglect their kids.

Probably Balmoral or Sandringham.

[Eddie]

2 hours ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

Interesting comment from Arlene (grumpy) Foster who said that NI will carry on as is as they think their R number is around 0.8/0.9 as opposed to London around 0.5 as London would have had it earlier. Not sure how this stacks up since population and density of greater London is way bigger than NI. Would that mean that immunity rate in London is also higher than NI ? I wasn't really convinced tbh, perhaps someone can explain ? 

I'm guessing (and I stress, it's a guess) that, because the London figures were so high so early, that people took social distancing far more seriously far earlier, and has nothing to do with any built-up immunity.

[Chester40]

4 hours ago, angieram said:

Is there anyone else thinks kids spending half a year with their families, learning how to make things at home, walks in nature, garden exercise, not getting everything they want on demand but getting love and attention and a bit of home cooking instead might be better for them in the long term than those few weeks in school that they miss? 

I know not all families are this lucky but my experience with the families that I am close too are that the kids are blooming (although the parents might be under strain!)

No. 

I think you live in Facebook land where everyone is describing their idealised life. 

All those things you mention they can be doing every weekend and in the 12 weeks of holiday they already have. 

The majority won't be having such an idyllic time. If they are lucky it will be a grumpy walk, lots of mind numbing tv/youtube and some hastily scribbled work..and I include my own kids in that. 

For many others its 3 or 4 kids trapped in a small house, no decent meals, no stimulation, no socialising and little learning.