BIllyD Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, Archied said: Interesting thing I just saw on the news ,, a delivery driver with health condition so shielding catagory ,then can’t be furloughed and forced onto a much lower sickness benefit,, am I getting that wrong? Hope so I don't know ? Why can't they be furloughed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, BIllyD said: I don't know ? Why can't they be furloughed ? As I say I just caught it and wanted to ask if anybody knew if this was the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Archied said: As I say I just caught it and wanted to ask if anybody knew if this was the case Pretty sure the covid act says that anyone who can't work because of the restrictions has the right to request that their employer puts them on furlough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, Archied said: Interesting thing I just saw on the news ,, a delivery driver with health condition so shielding catagory ,then can’t be furloughed and forced onto a much lower sickness benefit,, am I getting that wrong? Hope so Not sure if this is the same sort of thing... A colleague of Muckerette is "Vulnerable" due to existing condition(s), but did choose to work through last year (when the shop they work at was open, that is). But once the risks got higher (with this new strain that is far more virulent) she decided not to risk it anymore (40min bus ride each way, plus a full shift mingling with customers in a clothes shop), so she asked to be furloughed. They said no, as the shop was still (then) up and running. Both parties agreed on authorised but unpaid leave, which she took. As it turned out, that was only for a week or so, as the shop has now been closed down again with these latest restrictions, and all staff are once again back on furlough. Had the shop been allowed to continue to remain open, she would have had to go back to work, or continue her authorised unpaid leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Archied said: As I say I just caught it and wanted to ask if anybody knew if this was the case Then sorry don't know, I'm guessing their are some restrictions around the scheme to make sure it doesn't get abused, maybe he has fallen foul of these. I'm guessing there are some people who will that aren't abusing it, but don't meet a certain criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Archied said: Interesting thing I just saw on the news ,, a delivery driver with health condition so shielding catagory ,then can’t be furloughed and forced onto a much lower sickness benefit,, am I getting that wrong? Hope so Probably self employed like lots of drivers now, with less than 3 years accounts for averaging purposes to cover 80% of earnings. Think that was the initial ruling for most though there may be things in place for those formally requested to shield ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Probably self employed like lots of drivers now, with less than 3 years accounts for averaging purposes to cover 80% of earnings. Think that was the initial ruling for most though there may be things in place for those formally requested to shield ? Deffo wasn’t a self employed thing ,, also furlough I believe doesn’t exist with self employed, it’s a different grant scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 A colleague is going in for planned surgery early February. She has to isolate for 10 days before going into hospital, she asked if she would be tested prior to admission but was told no because the test is at best 80% accurate. Isolation, 10 days with no symptoms is the requirement for surgery. This is Burton hospital. I assume its the same everywhere else. No particular comment, just thought I'd see if others have seen or heard this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: A colleague is going in for planned surgery early February. She has to isolate for 10 days before going into hospital, she asked if she would be tested prior to admission but was told no because the test is at best 80% accurate. Isolation, 10 days with no symptoms is the requirement for surgery. This is Burton hospital. I assume its the same everywhere else. No particular comment, just thought I'd see if others have seen or heard this. I can confirm that this is not the case in the two hospital trusts my brothers work in. Both trusts require a negative covid-19 test before the operation can take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Mash Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 23 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: A colleague is going in for planned surgery early February. She has to isolate for 10 days before going into hospital, she asked if she would be tested prior to admission but was told no because the test is at best 80% accurate. Isolation, 10 days with no symptoms is the requirement for surgery. This is Burton hospital. I assume its the same everywhere else. No particular comment, just thought I'd see if others have seen or heard this. I know of very similar things in West Midlands hospitals too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Mash Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I'll re phrase that, I've heard people say similar things. Not sure how accurate or truthful though. Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 https://cpoc.org.uk/sites/cpoc/files/documents/2020-05/CPOC-FAQ.pdf What will be different when having an operation during the COVID-19 pandemic? To maintain social distancing and reduce travelling to hospitals, you may be offered online consultations with the surgeon and the preoperative assessment clinic, rather than be asked to attend appointments in person. You will be asked to self-isolate at home for 14 days before the operation, along with members of your household if you do not live alone. It is very important that you take this request seriously for your own health, for the health of the NHS staff caring for you and for the health of other patients. All other patients coming into hospital for a planned procedure will have been asked to self-isolate to reduce the risk of contracting the virus for everyone. The hospital will ask you to take a swab test for COVID-19 before admission. If you require a long hospital stay you will also be tested regularly while you are admitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bearwood Ram said: I'll re phrase that, I've heard people say similar things. Not sure how accurate or truthful though. Apologies. No need to apologise. All we have is anecdotal evidence unless local trusts publish their policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 50 minutes ago, Archied said: Deffo wasn’t a self employed thing ,, also furlough I believe doesn’t exist with self employed, it’s a different grant scheme Yeah . My mates a tree surgeon -s/e- and he applied for a grant in August. If he wasn't s/e I don't know then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, jimmyp said: https://cpoc.org.uk/sites/cpoc/files/documents/2020-05/CPOC-FAQ.pdf What will be different when having an operation during the COVID-19 pandemic? To maintain social distancing and reduce travelling to hospitals, you may be offered online consultations with the surgeon and the preoperative assessment clinic, rather than be asked to attend appointments in person. You will be asked to self-isolate at home for 14 days before the operation, along with members of your household if you do not live alone. It is very important that you take this request seriously for your own health, for the health of the NHS staff caring for you and for the health of other patients. All other patients coming into hospital for a planned procedure will have been asked to self-isolate to reduce the risk of contracting the virus for everyone.The hospital will ask you to take a swab test for COVID-19 before admission. If you require a long hospital stay you will also be tested regularly while you are admitted. She asked if she would be tested before admission and was told no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: No need to apologise. All we have is anecdotal evidence unless local trusts publish their policy. I would say the information from the Centre for preoperative care is pretty reliable, I certainly wouldn’t describe it as anecdotal evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: A colleague is going in for planned surgery early February. She has to isolate for 10 days before going into hospital, she asked if she would be tested prior to admission but was told no because the test is at best 80% accurate. Isolation, 10 days with no symptoms is the requirement for surgery. This is Burton hospital. I assume its the same everywhere else. No particular comment, just thought I'd see if others have seen or heard this. Tell her not to get too excited. An ex-colleague of mine has now had her operation delayed three times, each one several days into her isolation period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: She asked if she would be tested before admission and was told no. Yes they won’t test before admission. They test before they operate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, jimmyp said: I would say the information from the Centre for preoperative care is pretty reliable, I certainly wouldn’t describe it as anecdotal evidence. I was replying to a poster before you posted. Doesn't really change my point, Burton Hospital have told her she doesn't have to have a test before admission because its less than 80% accurate. Maybe the person she spoke to has got it wrong, just wondered what others were being told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: I was replying to a poster before you posted. Doesn't really change my point, Burton Hospital have told her she doesn't have to have a test before admission because its less than 80% accurate. Maybe the person she spoke to has got it wrong, just wondered what others were being told. Yes that is the case, a test is not required before admission. A negative test is required before an elective operation can take place though. Isolating for 10 days is not sufficient by itself to allow the surgery to take place. I don’t know what test type they are referring to. The test they use in hospital are more than 80% accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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