Eddie Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 It's a bit like Monty Python's Election Night Special on here now. Sensible Party v Silly Party. I've got bagsies on Kevin Philips Bong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 This makes pretty grim watching. I'm glad I'm out of the US and back in a country that has a Government who have implemented a great plan and have everything under control. Phew. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/24/us/minneapolis-doctor-covid/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3EroBTTgoRDFMcJjk3mJGVi_ogVWlgBBRf9F_E4kjXYvtng1fETCS3Jgk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Archied said: So should I ignore them on taking the vaccine? you should ignore them on everything! By all means listen for entertainment, if you love listening to a good argument and people being controversial for the sake of it. But for gawds sake don't listen to Talk Radio for anything serious or important It's just an entertainment channel. But you know that because you're "well aware of tactics of click bait and controversial shows to generate phone in traffic" - so I highly doubt you'd even consider them as a worthy source of facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Ridiculous. Let me guess. Talksport good, guardian bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Eddie said: It's a bit like Monty Python's Election Night Special on here now. Sensible Party v Silly Party. I've got bagsies on Kevin Philips Bong. Good news is, Arthur Negus has held Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: you should ignore them on everything! By all means listen for entertainment, if you love listening to a good argument and people being controversial for the sake of it. But for gawds sake don't listen to Talk Radio for anything serious or important It's just an entertainment channel. But you know that because you're "well aware of tactics of click bait and controversial shows to generate phone in traffic" - so I highly doubt you'd even consider them as a worthy source of facts How often do you listen to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 48 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: you should ignore them on everything! By all means listen for entertainment, if you love listening to a good argument and people being controversial for the sake of it. But for gawds sake don't listen to Talk Radio for anything serious or important It's just an entertainment channel. But you know that because you're "well aware of tactics of click bait and controversial shows to generate phone in traffic" - so I highly doubt you'd even consider them as a worthy source of facts So don’t have the vaccine then ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Archied said: So don’t have the vaccine then ?? Yep that must be them being controversial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Let's be honest the Guardian is completely biased to the left and puts out false narratives and ignores nuances and at the same time Talk Radio are the same in the opposite direction although are atleast on the side of reasoning that respects the ordinary individual more and realises why any dissent is taking place. Would be good if there was a more politically neutral nuanced debate shows with people arguing different things in a respectful way. Snobbily dismissing un academic sources is what makes people want to follow them more, can't call stuff nonsense fake news and make people change their mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, GboroRam said: Good news is, Arthur Negus has held Bristol. Can I just say that I'll never appear on television again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, Marriott Ram99 said: Let's be honest the Guardian is completely biased to the left and puts out false narratives and ignores nuances and at the same time Talk Radio are the same in the opposite direction although are atleast on the side of reasoning that respects the ordinary individual more and realises why any dissent is taking place. Would be good if there was a more politically neutral nuanced debate shows with people arguing different things in a respectful way. Snobbily dismissing un academic sources is what makes people want to follow them more, can't call stuff nonsense fake news and make people change their mind. "My ignorance is just as valid as your knowledge" seems to be the mantra coming from some quarters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 53 minutes ago, Archied said: So don’t have the vaccine then ?? Don't get your science from the Beano. I'm not saying don't read the beano. I'm not even saying it's wrong. I'm saying go to a grown up reliable source of information. Same goes with talksport. It is an entertainment outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, GboroRam said: Let me guess. Talksport good, guardian bad? I could respond but you would melt down again and go power mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Eddie said: "My ignorance is just as valid as your knowledge" seems to be the mantra coming from some quarters That's the purest ignorance. It's not ignorance contesting government approaches and challenging things, there's not just one way of doing things. Not everyone wants to be locked up, even the oldest people.Since when is it the government's right to shut things down and screw over people's lives? Nobody voted for these measures so it's anti democratic and authoritian, even if it's deemed necessary in my eyes nothing gives the government that power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: I could respond but you would melt down again and go power mad. Ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 10 hours ago, Archied said: No I’m not drawing any line, I don’t care if icke posts about lizard people , does himself more harm than anybody else, yes to a point but I’m sure you would agree by the same token that plenty plenty harm has been done by accepted science and medical thinking of its time over the years? what we ( me) are talking about here is the principle of any one side deciding what is disinformation and banning it from being seen heard or written about ?♂️ Stuff from people like yeadon and other highly qualified and respected people is not misinformation to be banned it’s opinion and theory to be investigated, evaluated and proved or disproved in fullness, they may well be wrong in some parts and may well be right or have valid points to make in other parts, His claims were outright incorrect, there were basic factual errors. The concern isn't opinion, it's literal disinformation in what he was claiming. The stuff was already evaluated, he was just lying to his audience, and that kind of thing is dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 https://www.wired.com/story/the-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-data-isnt-up-to-snuff/ I find this article quite concerning regarding the efficacy of the Oxford vaccine, particularly around the efficacy in older people and the small amount of samples. Seems to suggest there’s a chance it may not be licensed in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Hope they have some extra staff ready to answer the phones at the Samaritans... Those figures are truly phenomenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, maxjam said: Hope they have some extra staff ready to answer the phones at the Samaritans... Those figures are truly phenomenal It's going to be absolutely devastating. Probably cause more death and misery than Covid has. The lockdown cheerleaders got what they wanted though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, Andicis said: It's going to be absolutely devastating. Probably cause more death and misery than Covid has. The lockdown cheerleaders got what they wanted though. Who ever are these 'lockdown cheerleaders' exactly? I honestly haven't seen anyone on here who thinks they are a positive thing, I certainly don't. They're a horrible thing, which should be avoided through better policy. They're a fallback when things go wrong, the issue is that the UK's response has been so poor as to require them at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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