Ghost of Clough Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Andicis said: Are they rising or have they peaked and are now going down again? If tier 2 is supposed to be a higher tier restriction, shouldn't they wait out the effects of that and see what it does rather than just immediately ramping up? Better to be proative than reactive. Waiting another week to see which way the cases are trending could be too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Better to be proative than reactive. Waiting another week to see which way the cases are trending could be too late. So put everywhere in tier 3, they might not have a lot of cases but better to be proactive than reactive, right? Wrong. If Tier 2 is supposed to work, why have they given it only a week before upgrading it even further, despite cases not going up in that week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Anyone else find themselves mildly irritated by the Tier system being the wrong way round? Generally Tier 1 would be the top tier in a tier system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Anyone else find themselves mildly irritated by the Tier system being the wrong way round? Generally Tier 1 would be the top tier in a tier system Tier 1 being basic, tier 3 being stricter means further tiers can be added at a later date. If it was the other way round it would get confusing when in the below ground numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Anyone else find themselves mildly irritated by the Tier system being the wrong way round? Generally Tier 1 would be the top tier in a tier system Agree but it's obviously so they can add to them. I feel the same about the GCSE grades - where grade 9 is the highest, so they can add numbers to allow for inflation. I'm old enough to remember when CSE grade 1 was the highest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Van Wolfie said: Agree but it's obviously so they can add to them. I feel the same about the GCSE grades - where grade 9 is the highest, so they can add numbers to allow for inflation. I'm old enough to remember when CSE grade 1 was the highest. Interesting fact, I was part of the first year that did GCSEs instead of O-levels. Grades were A, B and C etc back in my day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Anyone else find themselves mildly irritated by the Tier system being the wrong way round? Generally Tier 1 would be the top tier in a tier system Rather like the new GCSE grading where a grade A becomes a grade 9. ? Edit: should have read to the end of the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, maxjam said: Interesting fact, I was part of the first year that did GCSEs instead of O-levels. Grades were A, B and C etc back in my day! In my school they were D, E and F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said: Rather like the new GCSE grading where a grade A becomes a grade 9. ? Edit: should have read to the end of the thread! Actually, my eldest lad did his GCSEs a year ago. The A grade is is equivalent to a 7, A* is an 8, A** is a 9. Apparently the new system is to help distinguish the really bright and the really, really bright from the bright ? Not entirely convinced its really necessary at that age tbh, surely that becomes more apparent as you do A-levels? Gave someone something to do I suppose. Anyway, I'm off topic so I'll shut up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Tier 1 being basic, tier 3 being stricter means further tiers can be added at a later date. If it was the other way round it would get confusing when in the below ground numbers Yeah I get that - I suppose my issue is with the use of the word Tier. Tier 1 is usually used to mean the top tier What's wrong with "Level"?? That works because Level 1 is usually the lowest level Anyone would think these people hadn't even been to Oxbridge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, maxjam said: Interesting fact, I was part of the first year that did GCSEs instead of O-levels. Grades were A, B and C etc back in my day! I was in the second year of GCSE's I think (1989 exams) Ah yes, simpler times......Jumpers for goalposts etc etc etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, SchtivePesley said: Yeah I get that - I suppose my issue is with the use of the word Tier. Tier 1 is usually used to mean the top tier What's wrong with "Level"?? That works because Level 1 is usually the lowest level Anyone would think these people hadn't even been to Oxbridge! I didn't have a problem with it til you piped up!. Now it's like when you just stare at a word and it just looks like it's spelled wrong. Thanks for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Andicis said: So I'm going under tier 3 lockdown in Sheffield, despite cases already going down, time to kill yet another Northern City. I hope these clowns don't get into power for another 50 years after this. Sounds rubbish mate. If enough Northern MPs rebel, could this regime be ousted? At least the Tories find a new leader who can help save us from these clowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, Van Wolfie said: I was in the second year of GCSE's I think (1989 exams) Ah yes, simpler times......Jumpers for goalposts etc etc etc.... I left school at 15 without the need to take an exam and still got an engineering apprenticeship. They were definitely simpler times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1of4 said: I left school at 15 without the need to take an exam and still got an engineering apprenticeship. They were definitely simpler times. At there is at least one person on here (other than Eddie) who is older than me. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 20 European countries record highest ever daily cases https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-news-live-latest-uk-updates-andy-burnham-set-to-respond-to-manchesters-midday-deadline-on-tier-3-lockdown-12103666 Its nonsense I know, but it seems to me as though perhaps the connectivity between EU countries is one of the factors playing a role in the increase in cases compared to other more isolated countries such as, I dunno, Australia or New Zealand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, maxjam said: 20 European countries record highest ever daily cases https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-news-live-latest-uk-updates-andy-burnham-set-to-respond-to-manchesters-midday-deadline-on-tier-3-lockdown-12103666 Its nonsense I know, but it seems to me as though perhaps the connectivity between EU countries is one of the factors playing a role in the increase in cases compared to other more isolated countries such as, I dunno, Australia or New Zealand. If only we had some natural defence, like being surrounded by water or something... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, GboroRam said: If only we had some natural defence, like being surrounded by water or something... . Or if only we could look at the response and actions of countries surrounded by water that had successful bio security systems in place prior to Covid-19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, GboroRam said: If only we had some natural defence, like being surrounded by water or something... . If only we weren't in 3rd in the world for number of air passengers and 2nd in the EU for busiest ports (not to mention a further 10m people using the Channel Tunnel) and have a large part of our economy dependent on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, GboroRam said: If only we had some natural defence, like being surrounded by water or something... . It doesn't even work for keeping illegal immigrants out so I wouldn't expect it to be able to keep an invisible virus out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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