B4ev6is Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Paul71 said: Yes it can do me too with mine in the cold weather. But the symptoms of Coronavirus are a new continuous cough, not the sort of thing that 'usually' is symptomatic with asthma suffers were it tends to be a short spell of coughing. Usually if I have a cough that persists its not my asthma its some sort of bug... It took months to go away probley made me feel quite ill in the made ribs hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Paul71 said: Could well be. The WHO have back tracked a bit on their statement yesterday now according to the BBC to say they still don't know really how much people without symptoms spread the virus The problem is, there is no consensus or 'official' line, but every statement from a scientist associated with the WHO is treated by the press as though the words came from an official spokesman or represented a clear mandate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Eddie said: The problem is, there is no consensus or 'official' line, but every statement from a scientist associated with the WHO is treated by the press as though the words came from an official spokesman or represented a clear mandate. I think people are looking for whatever hope they can find, wherever it comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 The Memsahib and I actually went out today for the first time since the end of March. OK, we never got out of the car, but I suppose it's a start. We drove around for half an hour and then went home for beer. No castles were visited (apart from Castle Donington, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, Eddie said: The Memsahib and I actually went out today for the first time since the end of March. OK, we never got out of the car, but I suppose it's a start. We drove around for half an hour and then went home for beer. No castles were visited (apart from Castle Donington, of course) Was it an eye test ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 If there are a reported 4-5000 new cases a day (1500 or so found by testing plus the ones that are never found) how does this thing get passed on? I can understand hospital environments and I understand in the home but given the stories coming out now that asymptomatic cases potentially don’t spread it - literally where are people catching it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie said: The Memsahib and I actually went out today for the first time since the end of March. OK, we never got out of the car, but I suppose it's a start. We drove around for half an hour and then went home for beer. No castles were visited (apart from Castle Donington, of course) The weather isn’t that great for getting out the car at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, rammieib said: If there are a reported 4-5000 new cases a day (1500 or so found by testing plus the ones that are never found) how does this thing get passed on? I can understand hospital environments and I understand in the home but given the stories coming out now that asymptomatic cases potentially don’t spread it - literally where are people catching it? Around 5g masts ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 hours ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said: Was it an eye test ? Aye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Van Gritters said: The weather isn’t that great for getting out the car at the moment. It wasn't too bad at 2:30 this afternoon, but I think it's going to be showery for the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 12 hours ago, reverendo de duivel said: I think the press are looking for whatever story they can find, wherever it comes from. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Still many people dying of think every day. The average deaths is really dropping very slowly. Seems to me the government have given up on trying to control this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 09/06/2020 at 17:11, Van Gritters said: Here’s one I’ve not heard of Atypical people who have mild symptoms but don’t realise they have the virus. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52977940 This may be the main source of spreading. I'm no expert, but if they say the main form of transmission is from people dry-coughing the virus into the air/onto surfaces, is it really so surprising to conclude that people who are asymptomatic (and therefore NOT dry-coughing the virus into the air/onto surfaces) seem to transmit the virus less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: Still many people dying of think every day. The average deaths is really dropping very slowly. Seems to me the government have given up on trying to control this now. I’m not particularly impressed with the government’s handling but I think it’s harsh and incorrect to say they’ve given up trying to control it now. If true they would have lifted lock down completely or, at least bowed to the pressure to make changes such as reducing the safe distancing, opening up hospitality, abandoning the quarantine rules etc. Also, don’t forget, the daily figures aren’t the number of people that have died the previous day. Whilst progress is certainly slow, there are other measures which need to be looked at such hospital bed occupancy and ventilator usage. Things are improving, albeit very slowly, and no one apart from the Coviditiots that are choosing to ignore the rules have given up on controlling the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, SchtivePesley said: I'm no expert, but if they say the main form of transmission is from people dry-coughing the virus into the air/onto surfaces, is it really so surprising to conclude that people who are asymptomatic (and therefore NOT dry-coughing the virus into the air/onto surfaces) seem to transmit the virus less? Not at all, I think the main spreaders are the mild symptoms who don’t realise they have it. Maybe that’s why we need to Stay Alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 hours ago, alexxxxx said: Seems to me the government have given up on trying to control this now. I don't think it's a wilful action on their behalf - just a shambolic level of incompetence generating a lack of direction among an element of the population who are still not convinced that it's a problem to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Deaths still falling but so, so, slowly now. Seems a long way from eradication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 There is something very dodgy with all these stats: Apparently R is still nigh on one. Each person infects one so numbers stay the same. YET a month ago 1 in 1000 people had the virus, now its one in 1700 (ONS figures). Roughly speaking 10 persons have infected 6. That's not 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 11 hours ago, alexxxxx said: Deaths still falling but so, so, slowly now. Seems a long way from eradication. You’re a cheery soul with your last few posts. Go and open a bottle of beer or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Can anyone explain how the UK wide r rate is between .7 and .9, and the England r rate is between .8 and 1.? Surely that makes the UK r rate .7 to 1.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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