Mucker1884 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, TramRam said: Trouble with CR was his attitude, Twice I'm aware of his attitude worked against him in the Blue Peter and Ritzys on Babbington Lane when at DCFC. 3 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Blue Peter in Alvaston. Didn't know Ramage used to frequent classy joints in Derby. No, the actual Blue Peter... The TV programme. He stood on Noakesy's foot, then shat all over the floor. Oh wait... no... that was a baby elephant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Bob The Badger said: It had to be said, that most of what I have read was on Twitter, and I think the typical reader of this board is smarter and more well informed. But, I'm surprised at how many people have knocked Ramage on his playing ability (not that that is even relevant). Technically speaking, he was a good player and many pundits during his early days thought he was headed for an international career. His issues at the highest level were two-fold, and both similar to Nigel Clough. He wasn't quick enough to be elite. And he didn't score enough goal. But, to say he wasn't a very good footballer is nonsense imho irrespective of what has gone on. Yes he was a decent enough player, and certainly no more average than the majority of the current crop pulling on a Rams shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Incredibly you’ve actually managed to put my initials at the top of your betting list!? I did say earlier in the other thread I was the man to replace Ramage, clearly the bookies agree too? It’s all coming together now! Nothing incredible about it at all, Agnes. There's a reason you're favourite! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Mucker1884 said: Nothing incredible about it at all, Agnes. There's a reason you're favourite! ? Actually, my name is arse twit, but I can see why you’d go down that route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: Blue Peter in Alvaston. Didn't know Ramage used to frequent classy joints in Derby. There were no A1 "gangstas" or YBCTG "ganstas" around in those days, You got a good meal, A decent pint and you could take your Wife/Girlfriend without fear or provocation, The only shot you heard was a car back fireing on Harvey Road that's being sold cheap. The trouble with CR was he thought because who he was he should get treated with the highest respect when he says "do you know who I am". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Slightly off topic does Ramage dye his hair? I remember him having dark blonde/light brown hair when he was at Watford and Derby and now be seems to have a dyed jet black beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Am I right in thinking he fell foul of Arthur cox because of his off field behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 hours ago, reverendo de duivel said: For me, he was a similar level to Jason Kavanagh, Kevin Francis, etc etc. If it wasn't for his Radio Derby stint, he'd just be a name from the past who didn't stir much emotion one way or other. Whilst I’d agree, slight differences for me. Firstly he was a little bit more technically gifted but moved before we saw the best of him, Watford clearly did. Secondly, he had a big time swagger that others have alluded to, when I saw him out, he was a cocky so and so in quite a few ways, that’s being polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Zag zig said: Whilst I’d agree, slight differences for me. Firstly he was a little bit more technically gifted but moved before we saw the best of him, Watford clearly did. Secondly, he had a big time swagger that others have alluded to, when I saw him out, he was a cocky so and so in quite a few ways, that’s being polite. Yeah, but let's be honest, we'd all have had that swagger in his position. Local boy and fan, playing for the club we love, young, cocksure and earning even in those days a decent wage. We'd all be cocky in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Based on the below he was a big favourite at Watford. Column by a fella called Richard Murphy Wasn't the worst player I've seen play for us . But certainly not in my top 20- probably better than Harkes and Kuhl who took his place in the squad mind. There really was only one Craig Ramage. From the moment that he made his effortless first touch in his debut at Charlton, there was incredulous excitement that Glenn Roeder had unearthed such a veritable gem. And all for just £90,000? This footballing god was priceless! Probably Watford's most naturally gifted player in the barren years between GT's two reigns, he had the touch, vision and, most importantly, the nonchalant swagger to mark himself down in WFC folklore. His middle name should have been 'Showboater' rather than just 'Darren', and, as a result, he inevitably polarised opinion amongst fans. Perhaps, off the pitch, he did fall in love with the idea of the playboy footballer lifestyle, and, on the pitch, he was frustratingly wasteful at times. But, whilst some disliked him for being a casual poser, many more loved him for virtually the same reason, as he really was 'worth the entry money alone'. Suddenly, after years of huffing and hoofing, the unlikely source of Derby had delivered the Vic a saviour who would show us a glimpse of the beautiful game. In his first full season, 94/95, Ramage inspired a seemingly relegation-threatened side to within a whisker of the play-offs, proving that, for all his sumptuous style, he still provided the substance of an end product as well. Employed through his career as a striker or in midfield, he really sparkled at the top of Roeder's diamond formation that season. Despite the dodgy cloth of which the Hummel shirt was cut, he made the Glory Horns look good playing football again.He ghosted past players with the shimmy of Gazza, threaded through impossible passes with the vision of Cantona, and curled free kicks into the top corner with the impudence of Zola. Even the Derek Payne five-yard pass was made to look incisive when it ended up on the end of Craig's twinkling toes. He scored eleven goals that season and had many more assists, guiding Watford to finish in an unforeseen seventh place. With such a mercurial talent, there were those who said it would not last. And they were sort of right. After a well-deserved holiday, he came back into the 95/96 season a little unfit and overweight. But with 'tracking back' not part of his Derbyshire dialect, what did it matter? Still, he was dropped for the whole of August. Rumours that he took a swing at Glenn Roeder but couldn't get his arm past his stomach didn't help. But, he made the perfect riposte to Roeder in his first home game of the season against Stoke City: in a virtuoso performance, he bagged a brace, with a signature freekick in front of the Vic Road End to whom he rubbed his bulging belly with glee. However, without a proven goalscorer to feed, Ramage could not prevent Watford sliding to the bottom of the table in a difficult season. GT's arrival brought a Ramage-led renaissance for the team, including a classic hatrick in a 6-3 pulverising of Grimsby, and in this season of struggle, Ramage still ended up with more goals than the previous season. But even Craig couldn't pull off the miracle and Watford were relegated on the last day of the season at home to Leicester City. The Second Division arenas of the Recreation Ground and Gigg Lane were not appropriate stages for such a performer and Ramage never really looked happy in his new environment. But injury blighted his season anyway before a petulant sending off in his penultimate game brought an ill-fitting end to his Watford career. But the appeal of Ramage's footballing wizardry was supplemented by his unique relationship with the fans. That belly rub to the Vic Road End against Stoke or his cheeky little thumbs up to the travelling fans against Wimbledon turned him into the impudent legend he was, leading to the fanzine's popular 'As Cool As Craig' T-shirts. His persona was perfectly encapsulated in the image of him mockingly smoking a cigar in front of the delirious Watford fans after slotting home the fourth in the rout away to Southend. When that sort of imperious swagger was matched by his artistry on the pitch, you had to love him. Underneath all his on-field strutting, he seemed like a really decent bloke as well. He always had time for the fans away from the pitch, and never forgot the relationship he had built up, exemplified when he sent one of my friends a twenty-first birthday card years after he had left the club. Even Glenn Roeder, who had a notoriously rocky relationship with him, received a letter of goodwill from Ramage following Roeder's brain tumour scare. With the natural talent he had, perhaps Craig Ramage should have had a career in the Premiership. But, whilst the player himself admits he could have knuckled down some more in his early days where he got caught up with being a young footballer, ill-timed injuries as much as attitude meant he never played at the highest level, leaving his England U-21 appearances as his greatest honour. Like the great man himself says, "It was great three-and-a-half years, I don't regret any of it". Me neither, Craig, me neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 21 hours ago, Curtains said: How many times do we score 6 now I may be wrong but i seem to recall this was the first game after our relegation had been confirmed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I think people are letting time cloud the reality... saying he was as good as Nigel Clough, give me strength. ..I reckon Clough is still better than him now than Ramage ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 He was decent player but always ended up drifting out to the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 54 minutes ago, Paul71 said: I may be wrong but i seem to recall this was the first game after our relegation had been confirmed?? It was 3rd round of the League Cup. Derby and Sunderland both got relegated from Div 1. Derby 24 points with Arther Cox as manager. Better than 11 points. You were most likely right mate. Quality League though https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990–91_Derby_County_F.C._season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Curtains said: It was 3rd round of the League Cup. Derby and Sunderland both got relegated from Div 1. Derby 24 points with Arther Cox as manager. Better than 11 points. You were most likely right mate. Quality League though https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990–91_Derby_County_F.C._season Ah no...i was thinking of the southampton 6-2 game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967RAMS Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 22 hours ago, Mucker1884 said: I am 57... and I have just come to the realisation that I haven't a clue how big a kippers dick is! I am sick to death of this sheltered life I've lived! I'm off out... I may not even be back until well after 9pm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, 1967RAMS said: Oh my... That's a lot smaller than I imagined! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 22 hours ago, curb said: Is it me or was football far more entertaining back then? No it was much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 17 hours ago, reverendo de duivel said: Yeah, but let's be honest, we'd all have had that swagger in his position. Local boy and fan, playing for the club we love, young, cocksure and earning even in those days a decent wage. We'd all be cocky in that situation. Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day .Man with two hands in pockets doesn't feel too cocky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 like the best music, the best football had died by 1980! I've been living on those memories for the past 40 years! It's one of the advantages of being a baby boomer! Along with:- Owning one's own house and..... Never having had to rely on the bank of mum and dad! What, never? Well hardly ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.