robglosta Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Say what you like about ‘being too good’ or ‘never looking likely’ to be relegated, I don’t buy it. Not that long ago we were in danger and with bottom 3 away form were only a glance away from home form slipping and real danger. Prior to Charlton at home we couldn’t buy a win and subsequently since the turn of Christmas our form is automatic places level. We should be buzzing - much bigger teams than us have had more rapid falls from grace and Cocu has worked miracles with the tools (and luck) at his disposal. We are in for a much better ride next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramboy63 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, robglosta said: Say what you like about ‘being too good’ or ‘never looking likely’ to be relegated, I don’t buy it. Not that long ago we were in danger and with bottom 3 away form were only a glance away from home form slipping and real danger. Prior to Charlton at home we couldn’t buy a win and subsequently since the turn of Christmas our form is automatic places level. We should be buzzing - much bigger teams than us have had more rapid falls from grace and Cocu has worked miracles with the tools (and luck) at his disposal. We are in for a much better ride next season! Spot on post and totally agree However lets hope the EFL dont stuff us with a points deduction at the trial and that then knocks the stuffing out the team, we could still be in real danger if that was the outcome Loving how we have turned this around since a certain Mr Rooney as bought calm to the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 hours ago, robglosta said: Say what you like about ‘being too good’ or ‘never looking likely’ to be relegated, I don’t buy it. Not that long ago we were in danger and with bottom 3 away form were only a glance away from home form slipping and real danger. Prior to Charlton at home we couldn’t buy a win and subsequently since the turn of Christmas our form is automatic places level. We should be buzzing - much bigger teams than us have had more rapid falls from grace and Cocu has worked miracles with the tools (and luck) at his disposal. We are in for a much better ride next season! Yes, progress next season, no doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Performances are improved. Not too long we could hardly string three passes together. Now.....ten passes is not unusual. The waghorn goal v swansea was a 22 pass move. max bird is a big factor in that improvement. Bielik getting injured has opened the door for max. I'm hoping we can catch forest and leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Buzzing to not be relegated? Jeez. I'm not buzzing at all, but I like how our younger players are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 We shall and WBA as well were coming for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 59 minutes ago, RamNut said: Performances are improved. Not too long we could hardly string three passes together. Now.....ten passes is not unusual. The waghorn goal v swansea was a 22 pass move. max bird is a big factor in that improvement. Bielik getting injured has opened the door for max. I'm hoping we can catch forest and leeds. Not signing loads of players also keeps team harmony and gives chances to everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 So much adversity this season. We wait and wait and wait and then our much-loved world-famous manager and other staff leave us at the last moment. On top of losing our three loans (two full England internationals and a Wales international) we lose our inspirational skipper on a night when the whole club is disgraced with other players are arrested. We lose our record signing to season-long injury. There's a whole raft of other injuries continually disrupting the team. The EFL approved all our financial dealings from a few seasons ago yet have now opened a retrospective investigation into them. And we were spiralling down the table ever close to the drop zone. I, too, am buzzing we're not going to be relegated. Anything else would seem a bonus this season, yet there are other bonuses. The youth are in the last 16 of the Champions Youth League with five of their number (from last season's U18s not the U23s!) in and around the first team squad. We have England's all-time record scorer, the white Pele playing for us. Since he joined we're the form team of the division. We're home to Man Utd in the last 16 of the FA Cup. We're all looking up the table rather than down it. As @robglosta says it was entirely possible for this season to collapse and League One to beckon, but we see to have held it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 We was never in danger of going down. Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, David said: We was never in danger of going down. Never. I do feel had we not had Rooney come in we would very much of been in danger of going down if a points deduction was applied. All season the away form has been relegation form and all that has kept us in a respectable position is the home form. If at some point the home form dipped we could of been in bother. All ifs and buts though. Luckily we’ve looked a lot better since the new year and should take a lot of positives from Saturdays result. Onto Bristol tonight followed by two home games after which things could look a hell of a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ollycutts1982 said: I do feel had we not had Rooney come in we would very much of been in danger of going down if a points deduction was applied. All season the away form has been relegation form and all that has kept us in a respectable position is the home form. If at some point the home form dipped we could of been in bother. All ifs and buts though. Luckily we’ve looked a lot better since the new year and should take a lot of positives from Saturdays result. Onto Bristol tonight followed by two home games after which things could look a hell of a lot better. But we did have Rooney coming in which is why we were never in real danger of going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 21 hours ago, robglosta said: Say what you like about ‘being too good’ or ‘never looking likely’ to be relegated, I don’t buy it. Not that long ago we were in danger and with bottom 3 away form were only a glance away from home form slipping and real danger. Prior to Charlton at home we couldn’t buy a win and subsequently since the turn of Christmas our form is automatic places level. We should be buzzing - much bigger teams than us have had more rapid falls from grace and Cocu has worked miracles with the tools (and luck) at his disposal. We are in for a much better ride next season! Derby's ppg hasn't been below the 'average points required' to stay up since game 8. Brentford were on the same points as us at that stage. Since then, we peaked at 'highest points for 12th', dipped below 'highest 21st' (but still higher than 'average 21st' and have returned to 'highest 12th'. The only way we'd have been in danger of relegation would be if our form in late Nov / early Dec continued for the rest of the season. Based on a 10 game moving average, we'd scrape into the playoffs if all that is needed is to match the lowest points tally for 6th spot. Estimating points for other clubs using the same principle would see us finish 7th, 2 places above Leeds would Leeds would miss out on the playoffs. Fulham and Brentford would be top 2, with West Brom, Forest, Bristol and Preston completing the top 6. A 20 game moving average would see us finish 11th. Fulham and West Brom top 2, Brentford, Forest, Leeds and Bristol top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 A win tonight see us top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 We'll be okay without a 12-15 point deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shang Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 A point deduction wouldn't happen this season anyway, especially if we appeal. It'll be offset to the start of next season if it were to happen (which I very much doubt as the EFL have gone very quiet on this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shang said: A point deduction wouldn't happen this season anyway, especially if we appeal. It'll be offset to the start of next season if it were to happen (which I very much doubt as the EFL have gone very quiet on this) A point deduction would be great if it happens, that would currently only put us down to 14th and only 11 from the playoffs. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj9a408 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Interesting we have scored more goals (14) than any other team over the last 6 games. We're also joint second for most goals conceded (10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 On 12/02/2020 at 17:14, Ghost of Clough said: Derby's ppg hasn't been below the 'average points required' to stay up since game 8. Brentford were on the same points as us at that stage. Since then, we peaked at 'highest points for 12th', dipped below 'highest 21st' (but still higher than 'average 21st' and have returned to 'highest 12th'. The only way we'd have been in danger of relegation would be if our form in late Nov / early Dec continued for the rest of the season. Based on a 10 game moving average, we'd scrape into the playoffs if all that is needed is to match the lowest points tally for 6th spot. Estimating points for other clubs using the same principle would see us finish 7th, 2 places above Leeds would Leeds would miss out on the playoffs. Fulham and Brentford would be top 2, with West Brom, Forest, Bristol and Preston completing the top 6. A 20 game moving average would see us finish 11th. Fulham and West Brom top 2, Brentford, Forest, Leeds and Bristol top 6. can just see them now at the EFL if we're 12 points above the drop zone on march 31st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 14 February 2020 at 11:55, cj9a408 said: Interesting we have scored more goals (14) than any other team over the last 6 games. We're also joint second for most goals conceded (10) We might as well play rush goalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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