Patrick Rams Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Andicis said: We're fortunate to be blessed with really good options at fullback. Lowe and Bogle as the first choice are the best fullbacks that I can think of in this league. Fans of virtually every club in this league would disagree with you.Bogle has made horrendous mistakes this season. You sound incredibly biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, Patrick Rams said: Fans of virtually every club in this league would disagree with you.Bogle has made horrendous mistakes this season. You sound incredibly biased. Every fullback has made a horrendous mistake this season. It's the Championship. Bogle has been eyed up by Premier League clubs for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: It's a simple question - do we have the best attacking full back pairing in the league? Two of the most important attributes for an attacking full back are dribbling and crossing. The graph below compares the crossing and dribbles of every full back in the league. The number of crosses/dribbles per 90, as well as success rate were considered. In an ideal scenario, you'd want to be in the top right corner. To be included, the following applies minimum 10 successful dribbles minimum 5 accurate crosses this season stats only count when playing in that position sub apps not counted at least 900 minutes played We're the only club to have two players in the top right quadrant, sharing the feat with only 2 other players. Remarkably, we aren't far off having a third player in this group (Malone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 hours ago, rynny said: Genuinely interested in what games you thought Malone had a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Sam Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Do they do similar stats for fullbacks who defend? that should come first really ,then the attacking side of it is a bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Sam Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, Curtains said: his one and only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seaside Sam said: his one and only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, Curtains said: So last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, rynny said: So last season? You didn’t specify lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 wow...there are stats for everything..... I would argue that the most important stat for full backs should always be how well they stop the opponent..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 No. We give away far too many goals from wide areas. Very good going forward, not so good defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: The same graph but with defensive duties given priority - tackles, interceptions, headers? Tackles vs Interceptions, Blocks and Clearances Tackles vs Headers Players must be: - Top 50 for successful tackles - Top 50 for interceptions - Top 50 for clearances - Top 50 for headers won - only stats from games at FB count - sub apps don't count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Which stats do you want to see? Defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 So Lowe is one of the best all-around full backs in the league; and Bogle is one of the best attacking full-backs in the league. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Fozzy is our best all round left back, his defending is by far the best at the club, delivery of a ball is still class and this time he has come back from his injury he seems to be running freely whereas before I always thought he was holding back because of previous injuries. His know how and experience is also important. That’s not to say I don’t rate Lowe I think he’s a class act but Fozzys experience just helps us stay solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Football is about scoring more goals than the opposition. As long as our full backs are responsible for more goals scored than conceded, I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Bogle is probably the best attacking fullback in the league but can be very suspect and naïve defensively, I would agree that Lowe is one of the best all round fullbacks, he is not quite as good as Bogle going forward but still decent and he seems a lot more solid on most occasions. I still think Bogle is more of a winger as evident by his goal vs Stoke and his dribbling but as long as we win I don't care how many we concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammed79 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Looks even better for the future too Jordan brown from our u19s can play either side and personally I think will surpass Lowe and Bogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, DCFC27 said: Fozzy is our best all round left back, his defending is by far the best at the club, delivery of a ball is still class and this time he has come back from his injury he seems to be running freely whereas before I always thought he was holding back because of previous injuries. His know how and experience is also important. That’s not to say I don’t rate Lowe I think he’s a class act but Fozzys experience just helps us stay solid. “By far the best”? I’m struggling to see that. Tackles - completes 15% more tackles per 90 than Lowe, but has a worse success rate than Wisdom, Malone and Lowe. Heading - Wins fewer headers per 90 than Lowe and Wisdom. Also has a worse success rate than Buchanan and Wisdom. Interceptions - Intercepts less often than Lowe. Clearances - Fewer than Wisdom and marginally worse than Lowe. Overall, I’d rank him statistically as our 2nd best. Based on this ranking system we get: 1. Lowe 2. Forsyth 3. Bogle 4. Wisdom 5. Buchanan 6. Malone Data is limited for Wisdom, Forsyth and Buchanan due to so few minutes being played at FB in the league this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: “By far the best”? I’m struggling to see that. Tackles - completes 15% more tackles per 90 than Lowe, but has a worse success rate than Wisdom, Malone and Lowe. Heading - Wins fewer headers per 90 than Lowe and Wisdom. Also has a worse success rate than Buchanan and Wisdom. Interceptions - Intercepts less often than Lowe. Clearances - Fewer than Wisdom and marginally worse than Lowe. Overall, I’d rank him statistically as our 2nd best. Based on this ranking system we get: 1. Lowe 2. Forsyth 3. Bogle 4. Wisdom 5. Buchanan 6. Malone Data is limited for Wisdom, Forsyth and Buchanan due to so few minutes being played at FB in the league this season. Statistically Blackman and Butterfield looked great signings. Forsyth would be in everyday for me due to the experience he brings he defends better and his delivery is always dangerous. lowe is great but look at the way he got sent off at Luton... you don’t get that type of nativity with Forsyth and I think when you have the mix of Bogle Clarke inexperienced and Fozzy Wisdom experienced you get our best back 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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