Shipley Ram Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 The idea is being discussed. I'm always a bit suspicious that articles like this originate from someone who is thinking about doing it but want to check what the reaction will be before making a move. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2020/feb/06/championship-wider-audience-football-league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Shipley Ram said: The idea is being discussed. I'm always a bit suspicious that articles like this originate from someone who is thinking about doing it but want to check what the reaction will be before making a move. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2020/feb/06/championship-wider-audience-football-league Very good read this was. It makes sense. The gap between the PL and Championship is only going to get larger with all these restrictions that are in place. There are many big clubs in this league, Us, Leeds, Sheff Weds, Forest, Swansea who deserve more recognition as the championship is always overlooked, by people all over the world and also in the UK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Squid said: Very good read this was. Struggled to get past all the waffle at the start, Guardian journalists paid by the word wount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, David said: Struggled to get past all the waffle at the start, Guardian journalists paid by the word wount? Lol. Yeah, I skipped the first two paragraphs to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Doesn’t this already exist? We’re third aren’t we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, David said: Struggled to get past all the waffle at the start, Guardian journalists paid by the word wount? I might have to check out that al Hayba, sounds good. I genuinely thought I’d clicked on the wrong link at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Would rebranding it as a 20 team league with a new name change anything? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: Would rebranding it as a 20 team league with a new name change anything? Probably not. MONEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: Would rebranding it as a 20 team league with a new name change anything? Probably not. I think the core concept is it becomes a 2nd league under the umbrella of the Premier League. They determine the distribution of money around the clubs in their competition and it would be in their interest to keep the "PL2" much closer to the level of the PL than the Championship currently is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, richinspain said: MONEY But why would there suddenly be money just because it's got a different name? There's money in the Premier League because of the top half teams and its getting on for 30 year establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: Would rebranding it as a 20 team league with a new name change anything? Probably not. No, but splitting from the EFL and getting a fair broadcasting deal would change a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 @ThePrisoner Look at the domestic viewing figures for games in the Championship and compare them with the Premier League. On the whole, there isn't a great deal of difference despite one league getting a considerable amount more publicity. Then question why Premier League's domestic TV deal is worth £1.5b per year vs the Championship's £120m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, richinspain said: MONEY Exactly. I'm not convinced having more of it is going to improve anything - especially for fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Duck off. Just please duck off. If we did this, it would be a case of "I'm alright, Jack". Apparently nobody cares about League Two and whether it remains a professional league. "Glossy repackage." Duck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Duck off. Just please duck off. If we did this, it would be a case of "I'm alright, Jack". Apparently nobody cares about League Two and whether it remains a professional league. "Glossy repackage." Duck off. If 20 teams suddenly vacated the Championship (and any other leagues); the teams below would get moved up to fill in the gaps. Everyone professional would remain professional. It just might mean that getting promoted from Non-League sees you in League One. But there'd still be 2 leagues below the "new" one. And the EFL would then be splitting their income across 2 leagues, instead of three. So if they learnt their lesson as an organiser all those teams may be better off for it, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, SaintRam said: If 20 teams suddenly vacated the Championship (and any other leagues); the teams below would get moved up to fill in the gaps. Everyone professional would remain professional. It just might mean that getting promoted from Non-League sees you in League One. Where does it say that? It seems to me that she's suggesting League One would remain as it was, whilst League Two would lose its professional status and merge with the non-league: Collateral damage could hit hard lower down an EFL ladder cut adrift and although pain invariably accompanies gain, the transition period would require careful management. Even so, the answers to necessarily hard questions could provide surprisingly sustainable long-term solutions. Does League Two really need to be fully professional? Might it and the National League benefit from merging before splitting into northern and southern divisions? Should neighbouring clubs share grounds and training facilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Where does it say that? It seems to me that she's suggesting League One would remain as it was, whilst League Two would lose its professional status and merge with the non-league: Collateral damage could hit hard lower down an EFL ladder cut adrift and although pain invariably accompanies gain, the transition period would require careful management. Even so, the answers to necessarily hard questions could provide surprisingly sustainable long-term solutions. Does League Two really need to be fully professional? Might it and the National League benefit from merging before splitting into northern and southern divisions? Should neighbouring clubs share grounds and training facilities? So the EFL would choose to strip everything down and only have one league under their remit? The Championship would still exist. You can't create a new league, with a smaller amount of teams without first leaving the competition you're in. The article is really just misleading in saying that "The Championship" would break away. The majority of the teams in The Championship would, but 'The Championship' (the competition) belongs to the EFL. It can't break away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, SaintRam said: So the EFL would choose to strip everything down and only have one league under their remit? The Championship would still exist. You can't create a new league, with a smaller amount of teams without first leaving the competition you're in. The article is really just misleading in saying that "The Championship" would break away. The majority of the teams in The Championship would, but 'The Championship' (the competition) belongs to the EFL. It can't break away. Hmmm, makes sense I suppose. The article does a terrible job of explaining it if that's the case, anyway. I still don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, SaintRam said: So the EFL would choose to strip everything down and only have one league under their remit? The Championship would still exist. You can't create a new league, with a smaller amount of teams without first leaving the competition you're in. The article is really just misleading in saying that "The Championship" would break away. The majority of the teams in The Championship would, but 'The Championship' (the competition) belongs to the EFL. It can't break away. I would argue this change would result in the EFL remaining as 3 league by 'adopting' the National League (Premier). It limits the decline of the EFL but should also improve the finances of the clubs currently in the 5th tier. Premier League *New Championship* Championship League 1 League 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Problem is, you move the likes of Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds to a Premier League 2, when it comes to the Football League negotiating a new TV deal without these clubs, the money just won't be there. That could potentially kill off clubs at the bottom that rely on the money they receive. The Championship big boys pretty much keep the Football League alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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