superzak Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 we have had some rubbish between the sticks over the years...who is your worst...mine is kelle Roos by a mile Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 we’ve just won ya miserable poo! have a day off? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Robbie Savage Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Yeah, let's not enjoy the win, let's get the pitch forks out for Roos! Boooo! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, superzak said: we have had some rubbish between the sticks over the years...who is your worst...mine is kelle Roos by a mile How was Roos at fault for the goals tonight? 6 clean sheets in his last 9(?) apps too Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Some folk just can't watch a single game without whining about something. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Roos played well and caught a couple of crosses, as he did under pressure in the away match. We spent 85% of the game passing it out from the back, dealing with any Northampton pressing very well even when under pressure, no errors in the first half that I can remember just lots of good, composed football where we moved the ball about quickly and accurately into the midfield. We had a 5-10 minute spell where we seemed to lose the calm heads, lost concentration a bit and gifted them a couple of opportunities, by trying to claim Roos was a problem tonight is unfair. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Hope he keeps his place against the mancs.... Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, JfR said: Robbie Savage Not forgetting Paul Williams playing 50 mins in goal in the 4 - 3 home defeat v Bristol City and John Gregory playing 6 mins in goal in the 3 - 0 win at Coventry ? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Roos was excellent tonight. Was let down by the midfield not offering an option a few times when he had three ball at his feet. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Kelle Roos doesn't even come close to being the worst. In the last 10 years, we've had - focusing on the more senior guys for fairness: Stephen Bywater Saul Deeney David Martin Lewis Price Brad Jones Frank Fielding Matt Duke Brad Jones Adam Legzdins Lee Grant Jack Butland Scott Carson Chris Weale Ben Hamer When we look at who we could say was better: Carson, Grant, Fielding, Bywater (although Bywater at this point was a horrid mess of a man) & Butland - the first four had runs of poor performances in a Derby shirt. Butland was on loan. Hamer is proving to be marginally better, very marginally in my opinion and the rest are definitely worse. Roos won't be remembered as a great when he leaves, but his record of 50 games, 55 conceded and 18 clean sheets keeps him miles off being the worst goalkeeper ever employed by this football club. We need to stop with the hyperbole. Even the ones I've mentioned: Carson - 171 games, 189 conceded, 60 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 55 conceded and 18 clean sheets. Fielding - 80 games, 105 conceded, 22 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 66 conceded and 14 clean sheets. Grant - 182 games, 239 conceded, 53 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 66 conceded and 15 clean sheets. Bywater - 167 games, 226 conceded, 45 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 68 conceded and 13 clean sheets. Butland - 6 games, 7 conceded, 2 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 58 conceded and 17 clean sheets. Hamer - 14 games, 18 conceded, 3 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 64 conceded and 11 clean sheets. He's actually got a better record than all of them - inline with Carson - who will no doubt go down as one of the best keepers we've had at the club. It certainly doesn't fit the trend that he's the worst we've ever had anyway. I just wanted to conclusively prove the point. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Think I counted two kicks in to touch, other than absolutely fine. Saved what he needed to, caught aerial balls. People make up their minds and are too arrogant to change their opinions, sitting in the south stand tonight proved that. Awful abuse at times towards him and Lawrence Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 You’ve been bloody lucky with the Derby goalies you’ve seen if you genuinely think Kelle Roos is the worst of them. I really can’t see how he can be remotely talked about in that vain. Sure, he’s far from the best goalie we’ve ever had, but the worst?! He’s a pretty good championship goalie when you consider the standard across the division imo, and more than good enough for where we are right now (though perhaps not good enough for where we’re hopefully going - the prem). How can a goalie at that level be considered worse than some of the poo we’ve had?! I’d even argue he’s a much better modern goalie than Hamer, so there’s already one he’s better than. But in reality, neither Hamer or Roos are amongst the worst we’ve had. That title is reserved for the likes of Roy Carroll, Saul Deeney etc. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Some folk just can't watch a single game without whining about something. Can't help myself... Oh, poo. I haven't even started yet! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Deeney Carroll Andy Oakes I don't think Roos is worse than any of these at least for his time here but he certainly for my money isn't an average championship keeper. He's got a lot of weaknesses which aren't even closely covered by a few of his strengths. I'd question his ability in the league below at a top club due to his inability to deal with balls in the air. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Roy Carroll was pretty bad. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Squid said: we’ve just won ya miserable poo! have a day off? You spelt poo wrong Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: How was Roos at fault for the goals tonight? 6 clean sheets in his last 9(?) apps too Yeah,,,,, well he didn't save the penalty innit!!!? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Ambitious said: Kelle Roos doesn't even come close to being the worst. In the last 10 years, we've had - focusing on the more senior guys for fairness: Stephen Bywater Saul Deeney David Martin Lewis Price Brad Jones Frank Fielding Matt Duke Brad Jones Adam Legzdins Lee Grant Jack Butland Scott Carson Chris Weale Ben Hamer When we look at who we could say was better: Carson, Grant, Fielding, Bywater (although Bywater at this point was a horrid mess of a man) & Butland - the first four had runs of poor performances in a Derby shirt. Butland was on loan. Hamer is proving to be marginally better, very marginally in my opinion and the rest are definitely worse. Roos won't be remembered as a great when he leaves, but his record of 50 games, 55 conceded and 18 clean sheets keeps him miles off being the worst goalkeeper ever employed by this football club. We need to stop with the hyperbole. Even the ones I've mentioned: Carson - 171 games, 189 conceded, 60 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 55 conceded and 18 clean sheets. Fielding - 80 games, 105 conceded, 22 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 66 conceded and 14 clean sheets. Grant - 182 games, 239 conceded, 53 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 66 conceded and 15 clean sheets. Bywater - 167 games, 226 conceded, 45 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 68 conceded and 13 clean sheets. Butland - 6 games, 7 conceded, 2 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 58 conceded and 17 clean sheets. Hamer - 14 games, 18 conceded, 3 clean sheets. Based on 50 games, 64 conceded and 11 clean sheets. He's actually got a better record than all of them - inline with Carson - who will no doubt go down as one of the best keepers we've had at the club. It certainly doesn't fit the trend that he's the worst we've ever had anyway. I just wanted to conclusively prove the point. Although, while I like the stats and they do point towards Carson being top dog. Surely they have to include the defence/team in front of them at the time. Shots against v goals conceded etc etc. We all know who appears to be the best without stats, but often they are in successful teams. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, neil62uk said: Not forgetting Paul Williams playing 50 mins in goal in the 4 - 3 home defeat v Bristol City and John Gregory playing 6 mins in goal in the 3 - 0 win at Coventry ? I seem to remember John O'Hare playing in goal once but my mind may be playing tricks on me though as it was a very long time ago. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/34330-dodgy-keepers/#findComment-1823605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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