RoyMac5 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, KBB said: Still to thick then. What should I see from reading between the lines? The hidden message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: The hidden message. Brilliant. I've got it now. Sorry it took me a while. Just to check was the hidden message that the club is a shambles, cocu is a shambles and our recruitment and retention policy is a shambles? I can see why offering Bennett a new contract would create a post like that. Easy leap to make really. Not true, but a lazy, easy, ill informed leap to make no the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, KBB said: Brilliant. I've got it now. Sorry it took me a while. Just to check was the hidden message that the club is a shambles, cocu is a shambles and our recruitment and retention policy is a shambles? I can see why offering Bennett a new contract would create a post like that. Easy leap to make really. Not true, but a lazy, easy, ill informed leap to make no the less. Don't think I implied that at all mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Well if it’s the same kind of close as the investment close, he won’t be signing anytime soon. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Bad news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Cocu dropped him, didn’t even put him on the bench for a number of games (and then yes randomly bought him back in) but obviously doesn’t rate him the same way he does, say Lawrence (I.e gets in the team despite doing nothing), so if Cocu is signing off on it, I really struggle with the why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcfan1 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Im more than happy with Waggy Martin Bennett and One other as our forward options (assuming we sell Marriott) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 hours ago, DCFC Ram said: The spireites and Notts County weren't keen on keeping him. He probably fits into the current squad roulette / raffle strategy though. Work with quite a few County fans. He had 1 goal & 1 assist from. 1 1/2 games before he got crocked and they were gutted and reckoned they’d have gone up if he didn’t get injured...instead they lost in the play offs, the money started drying up and they now play in the conference. They’d have loved him back, but Lampard had him in the first team squad. still, not sure I’d be giving him a contract, without the boozing incident, he’s literally always been injured throughout his whole career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 To be fair, I'd rather keep him and play him instead of Lawrence. Although there are times when I'd rather we played with ten instead of playing Lawrence so that's not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 This is surprising and dissapointing news for me...not a striker or a winger or anything for that matter I would've looked to offload to someone like Oxford in exchange ( plus Cash... which says it all ) for Dickie....what is going on !!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, King Kevin said: No, been watching football a long time I know a footballer when I see one and he ain't it. Ah sorry. I didn't realize the length of time watching football was correlated with understanding it. That explains why so many in here knew more than Frank and know more than Cocu. I feel enlightened to know that as a season ticket holder from the 60s my opinion is so much more important than some millennials. How dare they question me? And you of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyhill60 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: Ah sorry. I didn't realize the length of time watching football was correlated with understanding it. That explains why so many in here knew more than Frank and know more than Cocu. I feel enlightened to know that as a season ticket holder from the 60s my opinion is so much more important than some millennials. How dare they question me? And you of course. You need to look a bit more closely at what he has actually achieved. He has won us a few points but his goals per appearance stats are dire, striker he is not. He has been around for a long time and yet with Derby or out on various loans he has never delivered on a consistent basis whether through injury or crapness. That he is regarded as worth a future contract is a statement of very limited ambition. Contrast his stats with Tom Lawrence, who gets so much stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalsheep02 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Perhaps the contract is partly due to the performance measure mentioned by Mel Morris whereby, next season, Cocu is targeted on having 50% of starting 11 as players who have come through the academy. 7 months off (so others could step up) but currently we have Lowe, Knight, Bird, Bogle with Sibley also looking like he deserves a first team place. Bogle could leave, and a midfield of Knight, Lowe and Bird is a stretch. Perhaps giving Bennett a new contract ticks another box on list of academy players starting next season? As an aside I remain uncertain how that 50% target works in a team of 11, is it 5 players? 6? or is someone counting as half a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, metalsheep02 said: Perhaps the contract is partly due to the performance measure mentioned by Mel Morris whereby, next season, Cocu is targeted on having 50% of starting 11 as players who have come through the academy. 7 months off (so others could step up) but currently we have Lowe, Knight, Bird, Bogle with Sibley also looking like he deserves a first team place. Bogle could leave, and a midfield of Knight, Lowe and Bird is a stretch. Perhaps giving Bennett a new contract ticks another box on list of academy players starting next season? As an aside I remain uncertain how that 50% target works in a team of 11, is it 5 players? 6? or is someone counting as half a player? 5 at kick off with a half time sub on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Don’t really see the harm in this. Doubt he’ll be on huge money, still relatively young, been very unlucky with injuries. Not really a fan of letting somebody like Mason leave on a free. Not like you get anything back in the future if he goes on to ‘make it’. If he is under contract, and we sell him on, at least you can get things like sell on clauses etc (as well as a fee... perhaps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 12 hours ago, Mucker1884 said: I suspect it's a case of "We've invested far too much time and money on him over the years, to allow him to walk away on a free"? The dangerous assumption with that strategy being valid is IF a team is going to come in and pay a transfer fee for him. Big if. I haven't seen many rumours linking him to other clubs over the past couple of seasons so not sure why now he's going to be in demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Do we know how much the new contract is worth? Has anybody though that no contract equals no fee when/if he leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 hours ago, rammieib said: Cocu dropped him, didn’t even put him on the bench for a number of games (and then yes randomly bought him back in) but obviously doesn’t rate him the same way he does, say Lawrence (I.e gets in the team despite doing nothing), so if Cocu is signing off on it, I really struggle with the why. Cocu said it took Bennett quite a while to get his head straight following the incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Anybody want to say anything cheerful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 59 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: The dangerous assumption with that strategy being valid is IF a team is going to come in and pay a transfer fee for him. Big if. I haven't seen many rumours linking him to other clubs over the past couple of seasons so not sure why now he's going to be in demand. Totally agree. Not for one minute suggesting he's "in demand". It's a classic case of "when to cut our losses". Pure gamble, on the club's part, and only time will tell whether they win the bet or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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