King Kevin Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 On 20/01/2020 at 13:46, TexasRam said: Number 1 yes, I worked in a knitwear factory in the 90s, 700 people of which Only 40 were men. When we had little work on we had to go to the sewing rooms to help out. A good looking 18 year old still wet behind the ears didn’t stand a chance !!! Ha ha, I was an apprentice at the then GPO when you went into a factory full of women you took your life in your hands. The things they came out with unbelievable where did it all go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Paul71 said: His head will explode then when he gets round to watching the new David Copperfield movie. Why? What's going on in that which may upset him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: There were thousands of Indian soldiers fighting both in their own regiments and also alongside English, Scottish and Welsh soldiers. Those are the facts. There's some wonderful pics on the web of inter-regiment footy matches as well as tales of their social interactions. There are less happy images of mixed troops in the trenches too. Reading some of the materials out there, letters, historical documents and the like, I'm quite heartened at the level of mutual respect that was arrived at through the hardships these young men endured. Of course, there were still those who looked down on Indian fighters as they did with other foreign nationals sent to help the war effort, but for the most part, the prior social and racial divides were completely swept aside, replaced instead by mutual respect. You are absolutely correct however when you say that their role, along with those of many other non-British soldiers deserve at very least, to be acknowledged. With regards to the film, you should watch it. I sense you'd like it and contrary to Fox's idiotic gushings, there is literally not a single PC moment across the entire 2 hours. It's a fabulous film entirely without any sugar-coating, skillfully shot and wonderfully acted, which is presumably why Mr Fox failed to secure a role in it and why he has chosen to ignore all such facets in favour of cheap jibes about institutional racism instead. Not related to the film or Sikhs but enjoy sharing this Gurkha’s story wherever possible.....the bit where he uses a machine guns tripod shows how close they got to him (I can assure that’s not a light bit of kit) proper brave bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, bigbadbob said: Why? What's going on in that which may upset him? Im assuming David Copperfield was white. Might be wrong though. In fairness the historical accuracy can't be that great anyway, there was mo magic tricks in the trailer i saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, bigbadbob said: Why? What's going on in that which may upset him? David Copperfield is played by Dev Patel. Seems rather unlikely that Dickens saw him that way when scribing the book so no doubt Fox and the other positive discrimination snowflakes will be bleating again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: David Copperfield is played by Dev Patel. Seems rather unlikely that Dickens saw him that way when scribing the book so no doubt Fox and the other positive discrimination snowflakes will be bleating again. Dickens was anti semite anyway.. look at Fagin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: David Copperfield is played by Dev Patel. Seems rather unlikely that Dickens saw him that way when scribing the book so no doubt Fox and the other positive discrimination snowflakes will be bleating again. So an Anglo-Indian actor can play a white Englishman in David Copperfield but not play an Indian in ain’t half hot mum......well goodness gracious me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 18 hours ago, BriggRam said: Not related to the film or Sikhs but enjoy sharing this Gurkha’s story wherever possible.....the bit where he uses a machine guns tripod shows how close they got to him (I can assure that’s not a light bit of kit) proper brave bloke Should have been a VC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 16 hours ago, WhiteHorseRam said: Should have been a VC. Makes you wonder what you have to do to get the VC......there aren’t many that receive it unless they die ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 5 hours ago, BriggRam said: Makes you wonder what you have to do to get the VC......there aren’t many that receive it unless they die ? Winning one no requires a super human feat, and seems to have to be posthumous now. See Falklands Para awards. Awards of VCs are also very army political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 So Lozza seems to be rolling back on comments he made about 1917... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7915341/Laurence-Fox-admits-didnt-know-Sikh-soldiers-fought-shoulder-shoulder-British.html ....today when asked about his remarks by Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid about whether the inclusion of the character was historically out-of-place, he replied: 'I’m not a historian i don’t know'... Well stfu about it then Lozza and don't make ridiculous claims about institutionalised racism against white folk in the UK based on a) a fookin movie and b) factually and historically incorrect assumptions. It turns out that Lozaa also dumped his 'too woke' GF for 'backing a Gillette advert tacking men’s mental health' but is now expecting sympathy as stress from his appearance on QT has led to him having insomnia! Here's a few facts about suicide rates for Lozza and his ilk: • There were 6,859 suicides in the UK and Republic of Ireland. • 6,507 suicides were registered in the UK and 352 occurred in the Republic of Ireland. • The suicide rate in Scotland is the highest in the UK – where men aged 35-44 have the highest suicide rate. • The highest suicide rate in the UK, and England, is among men aged 45-49. • The highest suicide rate in Wales is among men aged 40-44. • The highest suicide rate in the Republic of Ireland is among men aged 55-64. • The highest rate in Northern Ireland is among men aged 25-29. ...but yeah, let's poopoo mental health issues amongst men eh Lozza you absolute meat trumpet. Also looked a bit sheepish after claiming that he'd received death threats this week (thus far unsubstantiated) and being asked whether he still feels that Britain is the 'loveliest, most tolerant country there is'. Bamford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: So Lozza seems to be rolling back on comments he made about 1917... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7915341/Laurence-Fox-admits-didnt-know-Sikh-soldiers-fought-shoulder-shoulder-British.html ....today when asked about his remarks by Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid about whether the inclusion of the character was historically out-of-place, he replied: 'I’m not a historian i don’t know'... Well stfu about it then Lozza and don't make ridiculous claims about institutionalised racism against white folk in the UK based on a) a fookin movie and b) factually and historically incorrect assumptions. It turns out that Lozaa also dumped his 'too woke' GF for 'backing a Gillette advert tacking men’s mental health' but is now expecting sympathy as stress from his appearance on QT has led to him having insomnia! Here's a few facts about suicide rates for Lozza and his ilk: • There were 6,859 suicides in the UK and Republic of Ireland. • 6,507 suicides were registered in the UK and 352 occurred in the Republic of Ireland. • The suicide rate in Scotland is the highest in the UK – where men aged 35-44 have the highest suicide rate. • The highest suicide rate in the UK, and England, is among men aged 45-49. • The highest suicide rate in Wales is among men aged 40-44. • The highest suicide rate in the Republic of Ireland is among men aged 55-64. • The highest rate in Northern Ireland is among men aged 25-29. ...but yeah, let's poopoo mental health issues amongst men eh Lozza you absolute meat trumpet. Also looked a bit sheepish after claiming that he'd received death threats this week (thus far unsubstantiated) and being asked whether he still feels that Britain is the 'loveliest, most tolerant country there is'. Bamford. Bamford. Twit. Rick. Poo. Banker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: So Lozza seems to be rolling back on comments he made about 1917... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7915341/Laurence-Fox-admits-didnt-know-Sikh-soldiers-fought-shoulder-shoulder-British.html ....today when asked about his remarks by Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid about whether the inclusion of the character was historically out-of-place, he replied: 'I’m not a historian i don’t know'... Well stfu about it then Lozza and don't make ridiculous claims about institutionalised racism against white folk in the UK based on a) a fookin movie and b) factually and historically incorrect assumptions. It turns out that Lozaa also dumped his 'too woke' GF for 'backing a Gillette advert tacking men’s mental health' but is now expecting sympathy as stress from his appearance on QT has led to him having insomnia! Here's a few facts about suicide rates for Lozza and his ilk: • There were 6,859 suicides in the UK and Republic of Ireland. • 6,507 suicides were registered in the UK and 352 occurred in the Republic of Ireland. • The suicide rate in Scotland is the highest in the UK – where men aged 35-44 have the highest suicide rate. • The highest suicide rate in the UK, and England, is among men aged 45-49. • The highest suicide rate in Wales is among men aged 40-44. • The highest suicide rate in the Republic of Ireland is among men aged 55-64. • The highest rate in Northern Ireland is among men aged 25-29. ...but yeah, let's poopoo mental health issues amongst men eh Lozza you absolute meat trumpet. Also looked a bit sheepish after claiming that he'd received death threats this week (thus far unsubstantiated) and being asked whether he still feels that Britain is the 'loveliest, most tolerant country there is'. Bamford. Not quite as simplistic as the Daily Mail are making out. Full interview below; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maSFYaM_14s And he apparently dumped his girlfriend over the woke toxic masculinity Gilette advert, not a mens mental health video - that despite them resetting the thumbs down on youtube still has over 1.5m ? https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/19/laurence-fox-dumped-woke-girlfriend-supporting-gillette-ad-finds-support-piers-morgan-12083339/ Ah, male suicide data. Its highest amongst the working class white man. Must be overburdened with all that white privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, maxjam said: Ah, male suicide data. Its highest amongst the working class white man. Must be overburdened with all that white privilege. Yeah, absolutely the most put upon sector of the UK populus. Or maybe because there or more white blokes than not. Tricky one that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Yeah, absolutely the most put upon sector of the UK populus. Or maybe because there or more white blokes than not. Tricky one that! Are there 3:1 more men than women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, maxjam said: Are there 3:1 more men than women? Whites vs non-whites. What do women have to do with it, we're talking about male suicide rates are we not? Over 85% but let's not allow that to spoil your narrative eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Just now, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Whites vs non-whites. What do women have to do with it, we're talking about male suicide rates are we not? Men commit suicide more than women. Working class commit suicide more than middle class. If you simply limit the argument to a male white vs non-white suicide that ignores the broader picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Whites vs non-whites. What do women have to do with it, we're talking about male suicide rates are we not? Over 85% but let's not allow that to spoil your narrative eh? You've made a mess of telling someone not to comment on something they don't know enough about. But then there's a study which has shown that people who read tiny bits on the Internet suddenly believe they know everything in the subject. Quite an interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, maxjam said: If you simply limit the argument to a male white vs non-white suicide that ignores the broader picture. Eh? @86 Schmokes & a Pancake only mentioned male suicide data - that's surely as broad as you can get? You were the one that started going on about WHITE male suicide. Which is YOU narrowing it down (to your own special interest - the poor put upon white man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Bamford. Twit. Rick. Poo. Banker What about scum? Let's be honest. He's another Lilly Allen. Got some good points but doesn't know the subject well enough to survive the scrutiny. He will end up deleting Twitter. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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