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6 hours ago, TommyPowell said:

ok i have thought about it and it a big yes from me on condition you get me Mel Morris autograph....must be on a cheque made out to me for any large amount

No can do, I tried, but he just walked past! Not like all the other owners who were always signing autographs? 

Not a nice man??

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16 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

To be fair, I can't think of many that have. Norwich is probably as good as it gets and they only had Aarons, Lewis and Cantwell last season.
The other two promoted last season... Sheffield Utd only had Sharp, and Villa only had Grealish.

Decided to look further into this. This is a list of the academy players used (at least 1 app) in the league by each promoted club over the past few seasons. In some cases I've been generous as they joined aged 17.

Norwich (18/19) - 3 Aarons, Lewis, Cantwell
Sheff Utd (18/19) - 1 Sharp
Villa (18/19) - 5 Grealish, Green, Davis, Hepburn-Murphy, Ramsey
Wolves (17/18) - 5 Batth, Gibbs-White, Price, Ronan, Burgoyne
Cardiff  (17/18) - 1 Ralls
Fulham  (17/18) - 3 R Sessegnon, Bettinelli, Edun
Newcastle (16/17) - 5 Dummett, Aarons, Ameobi, Sterry, Armstrong 
Brighton (16/17) - 3 Dunk, March, Hunt
Huddersfield  (16/17) - 1 Billing
Burnley (15/16) - 0
Boro (15/16) - 4 Downing, Gibson, Fry, Reach
Hull (15/16) - 0
Bournemouth (14/15) - 1 Pitman
Watford (14/15) - 5 Hoban, Doyley, Bond, Mensah, Byers 
Norwich (14/15) - Loza, Morris

We're already at with 6 of those playing in 5 games or more.

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3 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Decided to look further into this. This is a list of the academy players used (at least 1 app) in the league by each promoted club over the past few seasons. In some cases I've been generous as they joined aged 17.

Norwich (18/19) - 3 Aarons, Lewis, Cantwell
Sheff Utd (18/19) - 1 Sharp
Villa (18/19) - 5 Grealish, Green, Davis, Hepburn-Murphy, Ramsey
Wolves (17/18) - 5 Batth, Gibbs-White, Price, Ronan, Burgoyne
Cardiff  (17/18) - 1 Ralls
Fulham  (17/18) - 3 R Sessegnon, Bettinelli, Edun
Newcastle (16/17) - 5 Dummett, Aarons, Ameobi, Sterry, Armstrong 
Brighton (16/17) - 3 Dunk, March, Hunt
Huddersfield  (16/17) - 1 Billing
Burnley (15/16) - 0
Boro (15/16) - 4 Downing, Gibson, Fry, Reach
Hull (15/16) - 0
Bournemouth (14/15) - 1 Pitman
Watford (14/15) - 5 Hoban, Doyley, Bond, Mensah, Byers 
Norwich (14/15) - Loza, Morris

We're already at with 6 of those playing in 5 games or more.

What are the figures like if you cap the age of those? Some of those academy players are actually a lot older and what you'd call experienced - Billy Sharp, for example.

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13 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Decided to look further into this. This is a list of the academy players used (at least 1 app) in the league by each promoted club over the past few seasons. In some cases I've been generous as they joined aged 17.

Norwich (18/19) - 3 Aarons, Lewis, Cantwell
Sheff Utd (18/19) - 0
Villa (18/19) - Green, Davis, Hepburn-Murphy, Ramsey
Wolves (17/18) - Gibbs-White, Price, Ronan, Burgoyne
Cardiff  (17/18) - 0
Fulham  (17/18) - 2 R Sessegnon, Edun
Newcastle (16/17) - 3 Aarons, Sterry, Armstrong 
Brighton (16/17) - 2 March, Hunt
Huddersfield  (16/17) - 1 Billing
Burnley (15/16) - 0
Boro (15/16) - 3 Gibson, Fry, Reach
Hull (15/16) - 0
Bournemouth (14/15) - 0
Watford (14/15) - 4 Hoban, Bond, Mensah, Byers 
Norwich (14/15) - Loza, Morris

We're already at with 5 of those playing in 5 games or more.

 

9 minutes ago, Srg said:

What are the figures like if you cap the age of those? Some of those academy players are actually a lot older and what you'd call experienced - Billy Sharp, for example.

Capped at 23? See my modified post above.

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10 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Decided to look further into this. This is a list of the academy players used (at least 1 app) in the league by each promoted club over the past few seasons. In some cases I've been generous as they joined aged 17.

Norwich (18/19) - 3 Aarons, Lewis, Cantwell
Sheff Utd (18/19) - 1 Sharp
Villa (18/19) - 5 Grealish, Green, Davis, Hepburn-Murphy, Ramsey
Wolves (17/18) - 5 Batth, Gibbs-White, Price, Ronan, Burgoyne
Cardiff  (17/18) - 1 Ralls
Fulham  (17/18) - 3 R Sessegnon, Bettinelli, Edun
Newcastle (16/17) - 5 Dummett, Aarons, Ameobi, Sterry, Armstrong 
Brighton (16/17) - 3 Dunk, March, Hunt
Huddersfield  (16/17) - 1 Billing
Burnley (15/16) - 0
Boro (15/16) - 4 Downing, Gibson, Fry, Reach
Hull (15/16) - 0
Bournemouth (14/15) - 1 Pitman
Watford (14/15) - 5 Hoban, Doyley, Bond, Mensah, Byers 
Norwich (14/15) - Loza, Morris

We're already at with 6 of those playing in 5 games or more.

Enjoyed playing with the youth team a bit too much ?

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10 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

 

Capped at 23? See my modified post above.

Brilliant research. How many of those teams' academies are at the same level as ours? To me it doesn't seem like we play many of those. I can see this season we have Newcastle and Boro at u18 level. Brighton and Wolves at u23. Which matches with those with more academy players in, with Watford an exception. 

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10 minutes ago, rynny said:

Brilliant research. How many of those teams' academies are at the same level as ours? To me it doesn't seem like we play many of those. I can see this season we have Newcastle and Boro at u18 level. Brighton and Wolves at u23. Which matches with those with more academy players in, with Watford an exception. 

The youth league across the country were a lot differ 5 years ago. I have a feeling Watford chose to make excessive cut backs to their academy around that time. They used to have a very respectable record with developing youth players.

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10 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Decided to look further into this. This is a list of the academy players used (at least 1 app) in the league by each promoted club over the past few seasons. In some cases I've been generous as they joined aged 17.

Norwich (18/19) - 3 Aarons, Lewis, Cantwell
Sheff Utd (18/19) - 1 Sharp
Villa (18/19) - 5 Grealish, Green, Davis, Hepburn-Murphy, Ramsey
Wolves (17/18) - 5 Batth, Gibbs-White, Price, Ronan, Burgoyne
Cardiff  (17/18) - 1 Ralls
Fulham  (17/18) - 3 R Sessegnon, Bettinelli, Edun
Newcastle (16/17) - 5 Dummett, Aarons, Ameobi, Sterry, Armstrong 
Brighton (16/17) - 3 Dunk, March, Hunt
Huddersfield  (16/17) - 1 Billing
Burnley (15/16) - 0
Boro (15/16) - 4 Downing, Gibson, Fry, Reach
Hull (15/16) - 0
Bournemouth (14/15) - 1 Pitman
Watford (14/15) - 5 Hoban, Doyley, Bond, Mensah, Byers 
Norwich (14/15) - Loza, Morris

We're already at with 6 of those playing in 5 games or more.

2 Murphy twins and Carlton Morris at Norwich?

 

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