Bosshogg Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Archied said: A fully fit as a butchers dog Marriott would be real quality ,scoring , running defences all over the shop and pressing defenders,, he does work hard on the pitch but you can see he is not fit enough a lot of the time to really do himself justice , if we can unlock that fully committed attitude in him then he s a player Agree. He gets in the right positions all the time. He just needs some time to get his confidence up. You could tell the other night he’s not quite on it yet. Having Rooney behind him will do him no end of good. We do need to strengthen just not up front. Incidentally as this is a thread about Tosun yes he’d be excellent (eventually) but not if we are paying his wages. He’s a goal scorer certainly but he has not done it at all at Everton. There is a good player in there for sure. I don’t think taking a risk on a player on high wages/needs to be loved or centre of attention/bang out of form is at all what we need. Look at Benteke at Palace. Was amazing but now looks like a man who has an inkling that he just might have left the gas on every time he goes to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisby Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, jono said: I think Jack has just one issue that is holding him back. There is something common with all his niggly injuries. Thigh, groin, quad “strain” tight, “felt something” .. We don’t get told everything but I guess there is a missing toughness in the muscle / tendons. you get some players like Lampard or Keogh who just don’t get affected by the bumps, knocks and stretches in a rough house game. I just think Jack is more easily prone to minor injuries and this is a big part of why he doesn’t always get picked to start. just a random musing but ... And all this ..... but ..... is it a physical issue or mental issue??? Am sure all players carry ‘injuries’ throughout most of the season but some play through them whilst others succumb, if Jack is fragile and succumbs at the slightest sign of a problem then I can understand why managers would lose patience. I may be being harsh but as a manager I would want eleven players prepared to run through a brick wall for me and the team .... lightweights would be history i’m afraid regardless of how much potential they had .... harsh but true .... which one is our Jack?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Gisby said: And all this ..... but ..... is it a physical issue or mental issue??? Am sure all players carry ‘injuries’ throughout most of the season but some play through them whilst others succumb, if Jack is fragile and succumbs at the slightest sign of a problem then I can understand why managers would lose patience. I may be being harsh but as a manager I would want eleven players prepared to run through a brick wall for me and the team .... lightweights would be history i’m afraid regardless of how much potential they had .... harsh but true .... which one is our Jack?? I honestly don’t know but I can’t fault Jack when he is actually on the pitch. He tracks back, isn’t afraid of a tackle, he’s got bite, effort and enthusiasm in the game. His attitude looks ok to me .. but who can say what he’s like when it isn’t match day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 That's it for me.. You only ever see a hard working dedicated footballer on the pitch.. Can't believe he is any different on the training field.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7851943/Crystal-Palace-chase-loan-deal-Everton-outcast-Cenk-Tosun.html?ito=native_share_article-top Sunday Mail say Palace are after him. Can't see him moving anywhere other than top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 04/01/2020 at 23:17, Rample said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7851943/Crystal-Palace-chase-loan-deal-Everton-outcast-Cenk-Tosun.html?ito=native_share_article-top Sunday Mail say Palace are after him. Can't see him moving anywhere other than top flight. But we are better than Palace. We beat them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, EnigmaRam said: But we are better than Palace. We beat them! Yeah duck being supplied by Zaha, what you really need is a cross from Josefzoon into you!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Yeah duck being supplied by Zaha, what you really need is a cross from Josefzoon into you!?? Or Bogle the championships Trent AA ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Barnetbyram said: Or Bogle the championships Trent AA ? To be fair, he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 It wasn’t a put down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Undergoing a medical at Palace - 6 month loan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gaspode said: Undergoing a medical at Palace - 6 month loan.... good can have him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Good signing for them. Shame, but no chance with prem teams interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoneedshuls Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Confirmed joined palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I wonder if this was one of the players when Cocu said, while there is a chance to sign your first choice you wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 We’re we ever interested, didn’t seem to fit with what we are supposedly after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ramarena said: We’re we ever interested, didn’t seem to fit with what we are supposedly after. I suppose not and at 28 million, i would imagine his wages are huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I suppose not and at 28 million, i would imagine his wages are huge! £60k a week apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Not sure if this was ever really on the cards but it seems he's done his ACL so probably for the best anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Not sure if this was ever really on the cards but it seems he's done his ACL so probably for the best anyway. First player to do his ACL after NOT signing for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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