Ghost of Clough Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, GboroRam said: Meaningless without a "per capita" comparison. Couldn't find a more up to date one but we know how spending has gone since 2015. Bear in mind new tech generally comes with a cost, we should be increasing the investment per capita, not stagnating. Moving the goal posts once again. @86 Schmokes & a Pancake claimed a decline in the numbers of staff, whereas the facts show the numbers have actually increased. Even when you bring spend per capital in to the equation, the assertion of 'cuts' is proven to be incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: Even when you bring spend per capital in to the equation, the assertion of 'cuts' is proven to be incorrect. Not really. Spending dipped from 2010 and only returned to the 2010 level by 2015. I'd love to see what the current figures are, but didn't find it (didn't go hunting very long to be fair). Cuts, from a service user perspective, mean can the service deliver what it used to. If we aren't funding it adequately, in fact stagnating, it effectively is cut. The numbers aren't increasing at the rate they need to in order to effectively stand still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, FindernRam said: . Do you think Russia would have invaded Crimea if Ukraine had a decent sized military and a nuclear deterrent. The UK is strategically an almost perfect spot to control Europe. We dare not weaken ourselves. We cannot rely on Europe at all and Trump may or may not help depending on who has upset him most that day! Who concerns you over invading Britain to control Europe from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Archied said: Who concerns you over invading Britain to control Europe from? Those goddamn Reds. They are under the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Archied said: Who concerns you over invading Britain to control Europe from? Who regularly sends its bombers towards our airspace to test our response times. do they do this for fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 hours ago, FindernRam said: Who regularly sends its bombers towards our airspace to test our response times. do they do this for fun? Moldova? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Globalism is dead in it's tracks. Self sufficiency becoming king and capitalism is in it's death throes. All it took was a tiny little thing, a virus. Worth a watch, a clock even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 hours ago, FindernRam said: Who regularly sends its bombers towards our airspace to test our response times. do they do this for fun? I love quizzes. Is it Losotho? That would really mess up the massive trade deal we've got lined up with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: I love quizzes. Is it Losotho? That would really mess up the massive trade deal we've got lined up with them. I hope it's not a country that funded a recent(ish) referendum that catapulted our current government into power. That would be scary. Or who also helped get the leader of the free world elected. Would be crazy if us and the US had delivered this dangerous country exactly what they wanted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: I hope it's not a country that funded a recent(ish) referendum that catapulted our current government into power. That would be scary. Or who also helped get the leader of the free world elected. Would be crazy if us and the US had delivered this dangerous country exactly what they wanted! The really worrying thing is that you actually believe what you are saying. When will you ever accept the real reasons why Trump and Johnson were voted in. Please stop deluding yourself that it was down to Russian intervention, wake up and smell the coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: The really worrying thing is that you actually believe what you are saying. When will you ever accept the real reasons why Trump and Johnson were voted in. Please stop deluding yourself that it was down to Russian intervention, wake up and smell the coffee. I actually mentioned the EU referendum. I thought that Russian interference was widely accepted. Similar story with Trump. Johnson in "power" was ultimately a result of the EU referendum, although if I predicted that a Brexit win would lead him to be in power, then I'm sure Russia could. Clearly the Russians would want leaders like Trump and Johnson in power, spreading discourse with traditional allies like France and Germany. By severing links with Western Europe we have emboldened Russia, a country that nearly everyone would perceive as much more of a threat. Kept those terrorists out though didn't we Nigel. Let's hope your Russian friends don't turn out worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Anyone know when that report into Russian meddling in UK voting will be released? I imagine Johnson was just about to release it when Coronovirus struck. There is surely nothing of note in it, which was why it wasn't released at the expected time, just before the election. Glad Corbyn didn't get in though. He would probably have been assassinated by the military wing of the Taxpayer's Alliance if he had given away as much money as Johnson's Socialist mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: I actually mentioned the EU referendum. I thought that Russian interference was widely accepted. Similar story with Trump. Yes, you're right, it is widely accepted by about 48% of the population. Johnson in "power" was ultimately a result of the EU referendum, although if I predicted that a Brexit win would lead him to be in power, then I'm sure Russia could. If you need a shovel to get your head out of the sand give me a shout. Johnson in power is ultimately a result of the weak opposition. Clearly the Russians would want leaders like Trump and Johnson in power, spreading discourse with traditional allies like France and Germany. Clearly. By severing links with Western Europe we have emboldened Russia, a country that nearly everyone would perceive as much more of a threat. When did we sever links with Western Europe? I must have missed that. Kept those terrorists out though didn't we Nigel. Let's hope your Russian friends don't turn out worse. When all other arguments are weak...resort to Nigel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: I love quizzes. Is it Losotho? That would really mess up the massive trade deal we've got lined up with them. have we agreed on healthcare and chlorinated chicken ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said: have we agreed on healthcare and chlorinated chicken ? Doubt we will be able to do too much in the way of healthcare because BJ was selling the NHS off to America remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Doubt we will be able to do too much in the way of healthcare because BJ was selling the NHS off to America remember. This is Lesotho we are talking about, massive deal, they'll Trump the yanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: I actually mentioned the EU referendum. I thought that Russian interference was widely accepted. Similar story with Trump. Johnson in "power" was ultimately a result of the EU referendum, although if I predicted that a Brexit win would lead him to be in power, then I'm sure Russia could. Clearly the Russians would want leaders like Trump and Johnson in power, spreading discourse with traditional allies like France and Germany. By severing links with Western Europe we have emboldened Russia, a country that nearly everyone would perceive as much more of a threat. Kept those terrorists out though didn't we Nigel. Let's hope your Russian friends don't turn out worse. I’m a staunch remainer and couldn’t believe the referendum results when it happened but, to say we’re “severing our links with Western Europe” is over dramatising it. We will still have links, same as we do with pretty much every other country in the world, they will just be on a different basis (not necessarily for the better mind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 49 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: I’m a staunch remainer and couldn’t believe the referendum results when it happened but, to say we’re “severing our links with Western Europe” is over dramatising it. We will still have links, same as we do with pretty much every other country in the world, they will just be on a different basis (not necessarily for the better mind). I was been overly dramatic, but some of the language used by arch-Brexiteers was not really ideal for forming lasting relationships. Surrender, 2nd world war references, implying they are the enemy. Childish and xenophobic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ariotofmyown Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: Tim Martin also was saying there was no evidence of people passing on virus in pubs a few days back. I guess you can't be an expert on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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