nogbad van 50 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Nick_Ram said: Serious questions? We're a ducking state and realistically have nothing to play for the rest of the season. Of course he'd choose Bristol over us. Maybe blame the recruitment team for their failings in the summer. Or maybe blame Cocu for our on pitch performances that leave us bottom half of the table with nothing to play for. Or “golden boy” Lampard who’s saddled us with Jozefzoon,Malone,Evans,Waghorn and Marriott ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRam1 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, SaintRam said: Most clubs own a house or two that non permanent players can stay at, or permanent players can stay at while they're house hunting. Players also occasionally houseshare if they don't have families. He won't be travelling every day back and forth from Leicester. But what if the player is settled in the Midlands. If he were to go Bristol it’s down to money end of! All this promotion push is baalocks he’s not bothered if Bristol go up or not, it ain’t going to be permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, JayRam1 said: But what if the player is settled in the Midlands. If he were to go Bristol it’s down to money end of! All this promotion push is baalocks he’s not bothered if Bristol go up or not, it ain’t going to be permanent. So presumably Tomori and Mount didn't give a toss whether we got promotion or not last season? If Benkovic goes to Bristol, he plays regularly and they get promoted, then his profile will increase to the point that he becomes a definite possibility for other PL clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, JayRam1 said: But what if the player is settled in the Midlands. If he were to go Bristol it’s down to money end of! All this promotion push is baalocks he’s not bothered if Bristol go up or not, it ain’t going to be permanent. How on earth can you come to the conclusion that if he joins Bristol City the only reason is for money? Weigh up a list of pros between joining Derby and Bristol City and they'll easily be the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 How can the loan deal be down to money? His Leicester contract gets fully paid regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRam1 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: How on earth can you come to the conclusion that if he joins Bristol City the only reason is for money? Weigh up a list of pros between joining Derby and Bristol City and they'll easily be the better option. Really??? Dont agree with that to be honest. Bigger crowds, better facilities, not far to travel that’s just naming a few the only thing is Bristol have on us is higher in the table with half a season to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRam1 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, DCFC1388 said: How can the loan deal be down to money? His Leicester contract gets fully paid regardless Whoever gets him on loan they will be paying a percentage of his wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Cocu said an hour ago it changed due to Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Can field that one: Derby, Boro and Bristol will all say he'll be in their starting XIs - so essentially the same gametime is being offered at the same level of competition. Boro 17th, Derby 16th, Bristol 5th. I'd choose Bristol too. Splitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, JayRam1 said: Really??? Dont agree with that to be honest. Bigger crowds, better facilities, not far to travel that’s just naming a few the only thing is Bristol have on us is higher in the table with half a season to go. If he takes into account crowd size when deciding who to join then he'd go back to Celtic wouldn't he? Better facilities is a fair point, although I've not seen much of Bristol City's to know how big of a difference there is. And you keep mentioning travel as if he's really attached to the Midlands, but he happily went on loan to Celtic last season so I'm not sure why 6 months in Bristol would be such an issue if it's for the benefit of his career. And as I mentioned before, we're a club with all sorts of problems off the pitch and (unless we get a points deduction) have nothing to play for. I don't understand what is so appealing for any player at the minute to choose to join Derby on loan apart from the chance to play alongside Rooney .... that's about all there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, JayRam1 said: Whoever gets him on loan they will be paying a percentage of his wages Yeah and Leicester pay the rest, the player still gets 100% wage regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: How can the loan deal be down to money? His Leicester contract gets fully paid regardless Not so nowadays, players can be paid more than their Salary ( and agents want paying as well) - be given lump sum payments as well and clubs can demand loan fees to amounts that they can dictate - it’s darn expensive and I don’t know why we are interested when it will be of no material benefit this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Sparkle said: Not so nowadays, players can be paid more than their Salary ( and agents want paying as well) - be given lump sum payments as well and clubs can demand loan fees to amounts that they can dictate - it’s darn expensive and I don’t know why we are interested when it will be of no material benefit this season Yeah most loans come with a loan fee & agent costs, very rarely do the players wages actually get increased during a loan, only ome i cant think of is Sam Gallagher. So in terms of his decisions on who to join it wont be based on money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Yeah most loans come with a loan fee & agent costs, very rarely do the players wages actually get increased during a loan, only ome i cant think of is Sam Gallagher. So in terms of his decisions on who to join it wont be based on money It will be based on Leicester’s decision and Brendon Rodgers has done us in before over Ibe and yes the Gallagher example was one that various clubs highlighted as becoming common practice to stupid levels I don’t think we should be spending money like this on someone we can’t sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, JayRam1 said: Take it you would want to travel hours for training and matches then I take it? He's not going to be getting up and catching a crack of dawn Megabus down to Brizzle every morning mate! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I'm actually mildly amused by this. I knew we were in for a poor window, that much was obvious, but not even I expected this transfer window to be so so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, DCFC1388 said: Yeah most loans come with a loan fee & agent costs, very rarely do the players wages actually get increased during a loan, only ome i cant think of is Sam Gallagher. So in terms of his decisions on who to join it wont be based on money The worst one was Tammy Abraham. There was so much competition for loaning him that Villa agreed to pay 150% of his wages (about £130k a week I think) and he was then instrumental in them going up. Isn't that what FFP was trying to stop? Retrospective action is no good if the promotion gamble pays off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I'm actually mildly amused by this. I knew we were in for a poor window, that much was obvious, but not even I expected this transfer window to be so so bad. But as yet! We haven’t wasted any ? ? ? money on stupid four year transfers for average to poor players ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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