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Ambitious

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2 minutes ago, Shuff264 said:

We're mid table for "big chances created" - 35

We're 9th for "big chances missed" - 25

For comparison:

Leeds are 61-40, they've had the most and missed the most

Forest are 30-14, 19th for chances created but only two teams have missed less

Safe to say we're more wasteful than most but by no way create the least (Cardiff - 27)

I am absolutely stunned at that stat. I'll be honest. 

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Dcfcsr92

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4 hours ago, Andicis said:

That's just false though, isn't it. Even when he started games, he's not got a great scoring record. This season he ain't playing because when he gets his chances in the team he ain't taking them. Marriott gets a huge amount of excuses made for him, he's been our worst striker this season. Overrated.

Because all of our strikers are smashing it this season

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5 minutes ago, Shuff264 said:

Really depends on what a "big chance" is.

What might not surprise you is we are 19th for shots per game - 7.8 (Leeds are top with 12.5)

I'd like to know how many times we've forced a goalkeeper to make a save, and (impossible) the difficulty of those saves. Goalkeepers seem to have an easy game against us, due to the quality of the chances being created and the quality of the chances being converted. 

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Shuff264

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13 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

I'd like to know how many times we've forced a goalkeeper to make a save, and (impossible) the difficulty of those saves. Goalkeepers seem to have an easy game against us, due to the quality of the chances being created and the quality of the chances being converted. 

xG might be your best friend there? Would give you an idea of the difficulty of the chances Vs conversion.

This table has us scoring more than we have but conceding more and having less points.

Not really sure what that tells us though

 

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9 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

I'd like to know how many times we've forced a goalkeeper to make a save, and (impossible) the difficulty of those saves. Goalkeepers seem to have an easy game against us, due to the quality of the chances being created and the quality of the chances being converted. 

Rafael Cabral (Reading) - 5 saves
Bartosz Bialkowski (Millwall) - 2 saves
Craig Dawson (Sheff Wed) - 1 save (1 goal conceded)
Christian Walton (Blackburn) - 1 save
Joe Lumley (QPR) - 3 saves (1 goal conceded)
Marek Rodak (Fulham) - 0 saves
Declan Rudd (Preston) - 3 saves (1 goal conceded)
Brice Samba (Forest) - 7 saves
Aynsley Pears (Boro) - 8 saves (2 goals conceded)
George Long (Hull) - 2 saves
David Marshall (Wigan) - 3 saves (1 goal conceded)
Dillion Phillips (Charlton) - 2 saves
Simon Sluga (Luton) - 1 save (2 goals conceded)
Bradley Collins (Barnsley) - 4 saves (2 goals conceded)
Lee Camp (Birmingham) - 1 save (3 goals conceded)
Kiko Casilla (Leeds) - 0 saves (1 goal conceded)
Alex Smithies (Cardiff) - 4 saves (1 goal conceded)
David Raya (Brentford) - 0 saves
Sam Johnstone (West Brom) - 3 saves (1 goal conceded)
Daniel Bentley (Bristol City) - 3 saves (1 goal conceded)
Jack Butland (Stoke) - 4 saves (2 goals conceded)
Freddy Woodman (Swansea) - 3 saves
Kamil Grabara (Huddersfield) - 1 save (2 goals conceded)
Total - 61 saves from 82 shots on target, 74% save rate for shots on target

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Leicester Ram

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My instinct is Marriott isn’t Cocu’s ideal striker. I also think Waghorn and Martin aren’t either but they’re closer to what he wants.

Bit ironic that a few years after Martin was frozen out by Rowett for an aging Nugent that Marriott is being frozen out by Cocu for an aging Martin. Just going round in circles at this stage.

And we’ll keep going round in circles like this until a manager has at least two full seasons at the club. It’s an inefficient way to run a club up against FFP and teams with parachute payments. Can’t continue.

Waghorn, Marriott and Martin should all go this summer. Need to build an identity under Cocu, think we need a young striker that suits his style of play, someone that will either fire us to the PL or earn a big money move that funds more signings.

Unfortunately, the best way to get a decent fee for Marriott will probably be to loan him out somewhere that suits his style of play. It’s horrible to waste talent like his but he’s not the first to have it happen to him and it’ll keep happening if we don’t stick with Cocu.

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12 hours ago, JfR said:

Rafael Cabral (Reading) - 5 saves
Bartosz Bialkowski (Millwall) - 2 saves
Craig Dawson (Sheff Wed) - 1 save (1 goal conceded)
Christian Walton (Blackburn) - 1 save
Joe Lumley (QPR) - 3 saves (1 goal conceded)
Marek Rodak (Fulham) - 0 saves
Declan Rudd (Preston) - 3 saves (1 goal conceded)
Brice Samba (Forest) - 7 saves
Aynsley Pears (Boro) - 8 saves (2 goals conceded)
George Long (Hull) - 2 saves
David Marshall (Wigan) - 3 saves (1 goal conceded)
Dillion Phillips (Charlton) - 2 saves
Simon Sluga (Luton) - 1 save (2 goals conceded)
Bradley Collins (Barnsley) - 4 saves (2 goals conceded)
Lee Camp (Birmingham) - 1 save (3 goals conceded)
Kiko Casilla (Leeds) - 0 saves (1 goal conceded)
Alex Smithies (Cardiff) - 4 saves (1 goal conceded)
David Raya (Brentford) - 0 saves
Sam Johnstone (West Brom) - 3 saves (1 goal conceded)
Daniel Bentley (Bristol City) - 3 saves (1 goal conceded)
Jack Butland (Stoke) - 4 saves (2 goals conceded)
Freddy Woodman (Swansea) - 3 saves
Kamil Grabara (Huddersfield) - 1 save (2 goals conceded)
Total - 61 saves from 82 shots on target, 74% save rate for shots on target

That reads like a horror story from our point of view

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11 hours ago, rammieib said:

Hull play a Similar style to us, Jack won't fit in there.

I think it's crazy if we let a proper striker go. He's not had a chance under Cocu to actually perform to his most effective, the others have had.

I didn't realise other teams in the division also had the same modus operandi of not scoring in away games and shipping 3 goals without reply when playing a London based team 

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18 hours ago, rammieib said:

Hull play a Similar style to us, Jack won't fit in there.

I think it's crazy if we let a proper striker go. He's not had a chance under Cocu to actually perform to his most effective, the others have had.

Jeez , he can’t stay injury free more than two games in a row so can’t / won’t take any chance given

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15 minutes ago, Dcfcsr92 said:

Thats only because we got no midfielders with bottle and we never look for the through ball if score loads when we have Rooney threading balls for him 

What? That's completely irrelevant to all round play? Marriott is our least clinical striker for chances, and offers the least in all round play. Overrated due to one game in the playoffs.

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Sexydadbod

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It boggles the mind why we haven’t tried Martin and Marriott up front together for a period of games. The game we did play them at home together , vs Preston, they linked up well and that was the best game we played all season. Give them at least 5 games in a row to get used to each other. Feck it, even if it’s a 4-4-2

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