Wignall12 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 10 hours ago, BondJovi said: I have provided plenty of evidence over this forum of why Cocu needs more time before we can fairly judge him and why it is not as bad as it appears. Seeing the type of players he brings in will tell us a lot. Football, sport, it is all built on blind faith. You choose to believe another manager could do better with this set of players, there is nothing factual about that, just opinion. Derby are poor at the moment, is it a fact we won't beat Wigan? No. I believe we will, if I didn't believe I would have given up on football a long time ago. This is just all part of a squad overhaul we have long been overdue. Time. All takes time. Sadly too many on here are short of patience , they'd sooner pull the trigger and get Colin in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Having just spent a week of "dad and lad" time in Florida I have just had an epiphany as to how important and fleeting time together is. Hope you both maintain that @Ruda Harliss and @Ellafella - that's the most important bit. Whether it's achieved by following dcfc or not (mine not into football but I did drag him to Southampton and Brighton last season)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Oi Phil.....do yourself a favour. pick sibley and knight.....be daring. it is Christmas after all. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, RamNut said: Oi Phil.....do yourself a favour. pick sibley and knight.....be daring. it is Christmas after all. ???? Let’sch not be haschty now...it’sch a long-term plan! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 hours ago, LittleEatonRam said: Because in modern football it's never the players' fault. £500k to work part time, a whole club backing them and 25,000 fans willing them to win just isn't enough motivation apparently. They need to be told by one man "get stuck in lads", or they just give up. Personally I don’t really see a lack of effort. If you go through them one by one I don’t think any of them are taking the piss (I know there is at least one certain player who plenty would disagree with me on however) I see a distinct lack of quality. I see a squad built in the image of half a dozen different managers, each of whom have had a very short term agenda. This is what results in what we’re now seeing. We no longer have a Wilson to score from a ridiculous distance in a tight game, or a Tomori or Keogh to get us out the muck at the back. The squad doesn’t need a total overhaul, I don’t think many teams who get promoted have a squad I’d be jealous of. But the vast majority of the quality we had in the squad is now gone. That isn’t on Cocu. That is on the previous staff at the football club who have cleared off as soon as they had to clean up their own mess (and to a degree Morris for allowing this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, Ellafella said: Let’sch not be haschty now...it’sch a long-term plan! ? Maybe by next Xmas then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 22/12/2019 at 12:54, Brummie Steve said: Sibley and Knight are great prospects..... All others seem to need "recommissioning". Big job for Mr Rooney. Maybe a general election type re-distribution is needed! Keep our current PM though and.... Keep it PC! Go ahead Phil, make my (boxing) day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 21 hours ago, BondJovi said: I have provided plenty of evidence over this forum of why Cocu needs more time before we can fairly judge him and why it is not as bad as it appears. Seeing the type of players he brings in will tell us a lot. Football, sport, it is all built on blind faith. You choose to believe another manager could do better with this set of players, there is nothing factual about that, just opinion. Derby are poor at the moment, is it a fact we won't beat Wigan? No. I believe we will, if I didn't believe I would have given up on football a long time ago. This is just all part of a squad overhaul we have long been overdue. Time. All takes time. I think we already know they type of players he wants to bring in clearly he wants “technical“ players dowell, pattison and bielik are all clearly in that category my big fear is that until his hand was forced with injuries he had overlooked shinnie citing was it “he’s not technically at the same level of some” or some tv I bf like that however he clearly overlooked and wasn’t aware in the championship u have to have players that can do the dog work too something mr championship specialist should be advising him when he lined Huddlestone and dowell up for the first 6 games or so was there anyone who supports Derby who thought that might actually work That was disappointing from the coaching staff I ha he to say and pretty naive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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