Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Squid said: If we're looking to MILL for players, bring in that Cooper centre half, proper bloke him. I quite like that lad at the back for Millwall, Pearce is his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, CHCDerby said: I quite like that lad at the back for Millwall, Pearce is his name. Oh ah, him.. was linked with him before I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 £15 million is about market value for us - but Burnley- I just can’t see it - Brighton maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 hours ago, cheron85 said: Ask @Andrew3000 ? - When your team is struggling it's usually better to improve as many weak links as possible - So might be worth sacrificing a star in order to do that Well, I was referring to the idea that the best way to build a successful team is to address your weak links rather than to spend the budget on upgrading your best player. Selling a star to address weak links is different! @cheron85 shares my interest in this 'weak link theory but he's in a better position to judge having read 'the numbers game'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Burnley scout must be an easy job: We need a big signing to help our relegation fight? Who is Derby's best player, buy him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 14 hours ago, Andrew3000 said: Well, I was referring to the idea that the best way to build a successful team is to address your weak links rather than to spend the budget on upgrading your best player. Selling a star to address weak links is different! @cheron85 shares my interest in this 'weak link theory but he's in a better position to judge having read 'the numbers game'. Haha don't worry - I agree with you that we don't want to sacrifice our star players unless we absolutely have to - But in the days of FFP it might allow us to strengthen our weak areas more than the relative loss of Bogle If we judge him as a RB I'd say he's a "9/10" championship level RB - And I'd argue that Wisdom is a "7-8/10" RB - So not a huge loss in quality If we could bring in 3-4 "7/10" players for the value of Bogle I think it might be worth it - If we have a terrible backup I wouldn't do it - But Wisdom is more than capable at this level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 If any scouts were watching his performance in last night's game then that should be enough to scare any interest off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I've just gone to the poling station with Bogle. He needed a bit of help cos he struggles to put a cross in the box. I'll get my coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCG Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 hours ago, cheron85 said: Haha don't worry - I agree with you that we don't want to sacrifice our star players unless we absolutely have to - But in the days of FFP it might allow us to strengthen our weak areas more than the relative loss of Bogle If we judge him as a RB I'd say he's a "9/10" championship level RB - And I'd argue that Wisdom is a "7-8/10" RB - So not a huge loss in quality If we could bring in 3-4 "7/10" players for the value of Bogle I think it might be worth it - If we have a terrible backup I wouldn't do it - But Wisdom is more than capable at this level I've read this sort of thing so many times in the past, in more recent times about players like Hughes. We are still mediocre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.M. Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I am a big fan of Bogle. Also a big fan of developing our young players and building the team around them and their potential. However. I am half remembering a Jim Smith quote. When he was linked with a very pricey right back, he replied that your most valuable player shouldn't be a fullback. I accept this situation is reversed but, if Bogle is (one of) our most valuable player, shouldn't we cash in and invest in a more critical area(s). CB, creative midfielder, proper winger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, KCG said: I've read this sort of thing so many times in the past, in more recent times about players like Hughes. We are still mediocre! Yeh but we only got £4m for Hughes which wasn't enough to fund anyone However I'd see a Bogle fee as potentially worthwhile if we could do it like last season - I think Vydra for Waggers, Marriott and Holmes was a good swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 hours ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: I've just gone to the poling station with Bogle. He needed a bit of help cos he struggles to put a cross in the box. I'll get my coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Swap deal for Eranio? I'm sure he could still do a job for us on the wing, even at 52. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/12/2019 at 15:12, U.M. said: I am a big fan of Bogle. Also a big fan of developing our young players and building the team around them and their potential. However. I am half remembering a Jim Smith quote. When he was linked with a very pricey right back, he replied that your most valuable player shouldn't be a fullback. I accept this situation is reversed but, if Bogle is (one of) our most valuable player, shouldn't we cash in and invest in a more critical area(s). CB, creative midfielder, proper winger? We’ll only waste the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 For the right price, sell and utilise the money, wisdom is a decent replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I've gotta feeling that Bogle is gonna be sold now. Cocu has to get so many players in that need for money is obvious. Additionally, Bogle doesn't seem to progress (at least in this league/under this management) much either, so could be closing to peak value now. Luckily, Wisdom is back so the RB situation is not hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoneedshuls Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 If he’s going we need to get a bidding war going to get the price up.. Wisdom will do till end of the season and the money re invested properly could turn our season around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfc_20 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 In my opinion if we get around 12 plus a decent youth player from the academy or a gk then I’m happy. If no swaps then 15 and no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldstar Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Hmmm been wondering why he's been pulling out of easy foot races in anticipation of a tackle and not breaking his neck to get down the wing.... could be they're trying to protect him for a big move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Start of the season id say 'no. Keep him'. But now how this season is panning out i dont care who goes. Just hope we get a decent fee but we all know itll be summat crap like £4-5million with add ons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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