The_Sheriff Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Anything less than 15m would be an insult and poor business by us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh n Bake Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I always thought we should cash in on Bogle if the right offer came in. I rate Bogle as our best player. But I'd rather a £10m CB or CM than RB. I think they would be more influential. *£10m isn't my valuation of him before anyone jumps in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Cam the Ram said: Derby supposedly putting what I'm sure most would agree is a low value on one of our top players Asked Ryan what his confidence in that valuation was. His response was "not confident; just relaying what I've been told." - to not be confident about it would suggest he hasn't been told that by anyone particularly close to the people who make such decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, cheron85 said: Tricky one though since value is based on supply and demand Anyone genuinely think a top 10 PL club is going to buy Bogle as their first choice RB? Any club coming in for him as a future prospect aren't gonna pay over £10m for him - And any club wanting to have him as a first choice RB won't be able to afford to pay more then £10m for a RB Lloyd Kelly signed for Bournemouth for 13 million from Bristol City, same position is a year or 2 older and is nowhere near as good as Bogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Asked Ryan what his confidence in that valuation was. His response was "not confident; just relaying what I've been told." - to not be confident about it would suggest he hasn't been told that by anyone particularly close to the people who make such decisions. Doesn't matter. £8m will now become gospel on here and Twitter, even if journos with a proven track record on the club suggest a higher figure at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Topram said: Lloyd Kelly signed for Bournemouth for 13 million from Bristol City, same position is a year or 2 older and is nowhere near as good as Bogle Fair shout But suggests they won't be in the market for another RB soon - And they're one of the few teams I'd have thought might come in for Bogle as a potential starter Sheff Utd maybe? Or Brighton? But can't see either of them paying big bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, cheron85 said: Fair shout But suggests they won't be in the market for another RB soon - And they're one of the few teams I'd have thought might come in for Bogle as a potential starter Sheff Utd maybe? Or Brighton? But can't see either of them paying big bucks Tbf Brighton paid 25 million for that Webster, if we could get 15 million for him to rebuild this squad then it would probably be worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 We'd probably get more money from a big team gambling on his potential than we would from a lower-end top division side looking to put him in their starting XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 for £8m, in fact, for anything up to £18m, I'd keep him and help him improve his defensive play. We aren't desperate to cash in as far as I know, so why give him away on the cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Perhaps we can get some sort of swap deals with this top Serie A club. Worked out well when we managed to persuade Forest to part with John Middleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Mostyn6 said: for £8m, in fact, for anything up to £18m, I'd keep him and help him improve his defensive play. We aren't desperate to cash in as far as I know, so why give him away on the cheap I'd take £15m + some small sell-on/future profit %; but I share your sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Topram said: Tbf Brighton paid 25 million for that Webster, if we could get 15 million for him to rebuild this squad then it would probably be worth it The problem is nowadays £15m doesn't get you much unless your scouting is very canny, which ours isn't, so at best that would get us 3 adequate first teamers, or 1 1/2 up and coming match winners. So we need to maximise every single deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, ramsbottom said: The problem is nowadays £15m doesn't get you much unless your scouting is very canny, which ours isn't, so at best that would get us 3 adequate first teamers, or 1 1/2 up and coming match winners. So we need to maximise every single deal. I think the best way to re-invest any big fee we received would be to get a couple/few top quality loans in again. With the state the market is currently (huge fees for average players), that would probably be the safest bet, either getting a top youngster for the season or a top end player struggling for game time at their Prem clubs with a view to make it permanent if we get promoted. I mean, just look at the two teams running away with it this season .... Leeds have one of the best centre backs in the league on loan in White, Nketiah who has won them plenty of points with his goals, and both Costa and Harrison in with a view to a permanent deal. Then West Brom have Diangana who's contributed to 9 goals and Pereira who's probably the best player in the league currently in with a view to a permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, ramsbottom said: The problem is nowadays £15m doesn't get you much unless your scouting is very canny, which ours isn't, so at best that would get us 3 adequate first teamers, or 1 1/2 up and coming match winners. So we need to maximise every single deal. Ask @Andrew3000 ? - When your team is struggling it's usually better to improve as many weak links as possible - So might be worth sacrificing a star in order to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, SaintRam said: Asked Ryan what his confidence in that valuation was. His response was "not confident; just relaying what I've been told." - to not be confident about it would suggest he hasn't been told that by anyone particularly close to the people who make such decisions. He also said the christmas party was cancelled which turned out to not be true. Wonder if a few people are dangling things near him to see if he bites with him being a new journalist focusing on the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 £8m is insultingly low. That would be as bad a bit of business as the Hughes transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Not being funny but do Burnley's scouts live in Pride Park? Hendrick, Vyds and now Bogle. They paid just shy of 11m for Vydra, and I'd say Bogle is a much more valuable asset than Vydra was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Didn’t Forest sell a player who had made barely any starts for their first team for £8m? Not to mention Burke who went for £13m. This club is its own worse enemy at times. We’ve got our own dedicated club journalist releasing figures low balling ourself. Not doubt leaked from someone at the club, not from a person at a potential buying club. £15m is a fair value for a teenage defender who is worryingly our most creative player. When I say fair, I mean all parties can be okay with the deal, personally don’t see why we shouldn’t want more. £8m is an absolute travesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Fans are far too quick to believe some of these stories - even gullible to the point that it's already drawing criticism of MM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 hours ago, cheron85 said: Any club coming in for him as a future prospect aren't gonna pay over £10m for him - And any club wanting to have him as a first choice RB won't be able to afford to pay more then £10m for a RB You mean like Bournemouth paying £13m for Lloyd Kelly not to be first choice? ? Spurs paying £25m for Sessegnon who isn't making the bench Even Wolves paid £18m for Traore who has only started featuring prominently this season. ...so that's not really true is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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