DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just listening to the moan in while reading some posts on here... I think we are all in current system /shape isn’t getting the most out of our players (whether they are good enough to compete or not) . I do think that model is interesting as outside of their formation a lot of their players have proven to be average at best until the last year or two. Head to head outside of their system I would argue only Henderson, possibly o Connell, Egan and Norwood would walk into most championship teams playing 4 at the back. So to get the best out of the Derby squad: Davies- needed for leadership and to put the hard foot in but needs protection from his lack of pace and ball playing skills marriott and Martin/waghorn- need to utilise Martin as one of the only players who shown the potential to be a top championship player lawrence- new solution/last hurrah needed before we give up on getting any consistent performance out of him lowe/bogle- very exciting going forward but not great at marking the far post bielek-record signing and a decent player there but hasn’t commanded energetic championship midfields and looks suspect defensively gk (Roos or hamer- no opinion but neither inspire) Bielek Davies Evans/buchanan bogle Lowe Shinnie Sibley/bird Lawrence/holmes Marriott. Martin/waghorn pros- brings out the strengths of all the players above creates good opportunity for young players in roles where they are protected Two ball playing players to bring the ball forward out of defence without taking up a midfield position and allowing a more energetic combination in central midfield an actually dangerous attacking 3 who would have the freedom to impose themselves on the opposition thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Thoughts are if it's so obvious why hasn't Cocu tried it already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Thoughts are if it's so obvious why hasn't Cocu tried it already I didn't say obvious... He also tried something similar at Stoke but didn't stick with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: Just listening to the moan in while reading some posts on here... I think we are all in current system /shape isn’t getting the most out of our players (whether they are good enough to compete or not) . I do think that model is interesting as outside of their formation a lot of their players have proven to be average at best until the last year or two. Head to head outside of their system I would argue only Henderson, possibly o Connell, Egan and Norwood would walk into most championship teams playing 4 at the back. So to get the best out of the Derby squad: Davies- needed for leadership and to put the hard foot in but needs protection from his lack of pace and ball playing skills marriott and Martin/waghorn- need to utilise Martin as one of the only players who shown the potential to be a top championship player lawrence- new solution/last hurrah needed before we give up on getting any consistent performance out of him lowe/bogle- very exciting going forward but not great at marking the far post bielek-record signing and a decent player there but hasn’t commanded energetic championship midfields and looks suspect defensively gk (Roos or hamer- no opinion but neither inspire) Bielek Davies Evans/buchanan bogle Lowe Shinnie Sibley/bird Lawrence/holmes Marriott. Martin/waghorn pros- brings out the strengths of all the players above creates good opportunity for young players in roles where they are protected Two ball playing players to bring the ball forward out of defence without taking up a midfield position and allowing a more energetic combination in central midfield thoughts? That formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Said this on another thread recently, but I think that Cocu would have switched to a 3-5-2 by now if he had any intention of doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ramarena said: That formation. 3412 done on a tablet which has screwed it on other screens apparently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 We'd need an awfully big Xerox machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3D printing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 No...momentum and consistency are key and we’ve been looking for those for a long time. plus it’s not PC’s style,it’s a reasonable and understandable point to raise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 It's a 4132 for me, suits the players brilliantly. Marriott Martin Dowell Lawrence Holmes Shinnie Malone Bielik Davies Bogle Roos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: gk (Roos or hamer- no opinion but neither inspire) Bielek Davies Evans/buchanan bogle Lowe Shinnie Sibley/bird Lawrence/holmes Marriott. Martin/waghorn thoughts? Possibly too light weight to compete in the championship. You can sometimes get away with not having physicality if you have enough talent, but we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramboy63 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 All the treads on the forum is full of team selections and formations and ideas ,were nearly a third of they way in to the season and PC as no idea what his best team or the best formation is,speaks volumes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, ramboy63 said: All the treads on the forum is full of team selections and formations and ideas. Tyresome ain’t it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, i-Ram said: Tyresome ain’t it. Yeah some people need to get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Thought Sheffield United copied us? We invented footballers drink driving weeks before them!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 14 hours ago, ramboy63 said: All the treads on the forum is full of team selections and formations and ideas 14 hours ago, i-Ram said: Tyresome ain’t it. 12 hours ago, Paul71 said: Yeah some people need to get a grip. It's the Continental way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: It's the Continental way! Hope we have a Goodyear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 16 hours ago, hintonsboots said: 3D printing? Perhaps we could print Law ,Best and Charlton and sign the as free agents ?? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 17 hours ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: Just listening to the moan in while reading some posts on here... I think we are all in current system /shape isn’t getting the most out of our players (whether they are good enough to compete or not) . I think there's a bigger problem than getting the best out of our players - We don't have enough playmakers - I'd suggest that any team needs 3/4 players who can break through the normal flow of the game (ie, the organised ebb and flow of most championship games where everyone sticks 10 players behind the ball) and create chances Last season we had Mount, Wilson, Lawrence and Bogle doing it (and sometimes Huddlestone from deep) - This season we have only really had Lawrence - And teams have worked out that by marking him out the game we're relatively toothless I think we need a regular partnership on the RHS to get the best out of Bogle - Dowell seems to be a creator/playmaker but doesn't offer much else - And then we have Rooney coming in January I think we still need 1/2 players who have a bit of creativity to them to take the load off Lawrence and show that we have threats in other areas too - Those players will bring the best out of the likes of Shinnie, Waggers and Holmes who are great when they work with someone creative but don't seem to have the x-factor on their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve How Hard? said: Hope we have a Goodyear. The way some are talking we will be playing at the pirelli next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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