B4ev6is Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 No harm lower leagues for players you can find some good gems or good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 30/09/2019 at 19:46, cannable said: I read somewhere that, because of Posh’s method of financial stability, their managers are hired with the brief to score lots of goals to rapidly increase their forwards’ value. This can make some of their strikers look better than they really are. Maddison’s stats suggest he’s the beneficiary of this. Yep, loads of goals and loads of assists, but for a #10 his general play statistics are rank bad. He averages under 20 passes a game and his passing accuracy is in the fifties. Literally, every time he gets the ball he tries to do something with it. So you need a role in the team in which you accept a player is going to give the ball away a gargantuan amount and hope he has the ability to carry his goals and assists into this division. Isn't that exactly what we need a player who is unpredictable and will try things. At the moment I'd struggle to see any of our current midfield recording those assist stats even if they lost the ball every other time. Half of them aren't even looking up to make those passes! You also make it sound really simple to have a team score loads of goals. Particularly when everyone knows you are going to attack. Even one of our best attacking teams in mclaren round 1 was stumped when teams started parking the bus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 hours ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: Isn't that exactly what we need a player who is unpredictable and will try things. At the moment I'd struggle to see any of our current midfield recording those assist stats even if they lost the ball every other time. Half of them aren't even looking up to make those passes! In recent years those kind of players are the ones most slated on these boards - Lawrence, Ince, Russell (when he was here) - You're not allowed to lose the ball remember... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, cheron85 said: In recent years those kind of players are the ones most slated on these boards - Lawrence, Ince, Russell (when he was here) - You're not allowed to lose the ball remember... I personally think only Ince falls into that category properly. I get very frustrated watching Lawrence because he ers on the side of caution far too often for what he could do. As a player signed to do the exciting stuff too often he has a full back isolated and passes it or stands there. Was a fan of Russell in theory but at that time we had too many players who didn't have the ability but plenty of attitude and energy. I think we've gone a little the other way this time in that alot of the wingers are lazier. During that period we were great on the break (energy and effort to get up) but didn't have enough players with the guile to finf a pass or truly beat players in a 1 on 1 (for the purpose of that it is when the defender is relatively squared up, not beating him by having the advantage of momentum). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 A few have mentioned the lad might be a bit of a Bamford. Is this hearsay or is there anything that in any way confirms this? Genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 On 07/10/2019 at 15:07, cheron85 said: In recent years those kind of players are the ones most slated on these boards - Lawrence, Ince, Russell (when he was here) - You're not allowed to lose the ball remember... And Maddison is giving the ball away significantly more than those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Saw him play yesterday and it was only one game but he was greedy on the ball and quite petulant. Went down more frequently than Chris Martin! Did a lot of moaning at the referee. Faced with two dominant centre backs who played deep he didn't seem to know what to do to vary his approach, which was to put in swinging crosses that the defenders gobbled up (good crosses under other circumstances though.) Had good ball control and was clearly one of Peterborough's more skilful players but I am not convinced on one very limited viewing that he would have the skills to break down defences that sit deep. Cue more frustration at Pride Park! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, angieram said: Saw him play yesterday and it was only one game but he was greedy on the ball and quite petulant. Went down more frequently than Chris Martin! Did a lot of moaning at the referee. Faced with two dominant centre backs who played deep he didn't seem to know what to do to vary his approach, which was to put in swinging crosses that the defenders gobbled up (good crosses under other circumstances though.) Had good ball control and was clearly one of Peterborough's more skilful players but I am not convinced on one very limited viewing that he would have the skills to break down defences that sit deep. Cue more frustration at Pride Park! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 We're 'mulling' over a move for him in January, according to TeamTalk. https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-derisory-middlesbrough-midfielder-bid-laughed-off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirelines Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Part of "Operation Get Marriott Scoring" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: We're 'mulling' over a move for him in January, according to TeamTalk. https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-derisory-middlesbrough-midfielder-bid-laughed-off 2.5 million for the most creative player in league 1 for the past decade, who links up perfectly with marriott, who can play near enough every attacking position? No brainer for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Squid said: 2.5 million for the most creative player in league 1 for the past decade, who links up perfectly with marriott, who can play near enough every attacking position? No brainer for me Thankfully you dont work for our recruitment team. I'd much rather we get linked to a top Chamionship winger for 10 million, offer a couple of mediocre bids, lose out to Villa and end up signing Bristol Citys 5th choice ex Forest winger...those types of transfer dealings are what get me up off my seat ? You do wonder what out goes on inside our recruitment teams office ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 We seem to be linked with this player every transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Thankfully you dont work for our recruitment team. I'd much rather we get linked to a top Chamionship winger for 10 million, offer a couple of mediocre bids, lose out to Villa and end up signing Bristol Citys 5th choice ex Forest winger...those types of transfer dealings are what get me up off my seat ? You do wonder what out goes on inside our recruitment teams office ?♂️ Ridiculous isn't it.. Honestly think some of us lot should form a recruitment team. We'd all do a far better job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Everyone we’ve been linked with us from either Teamtalk or that football insider are they even reliable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I think it would take a strong bid to get him in January, he's key to Pboro's promotion bid and they're currently third. I think you pay 40% more in January than you do in the summer, regardless of which league they're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Squid said: Ridiculous isn't it.. Honestly think some of us lot should form a recruitment team. We'd all do a far better job! So much of scouting is data-driven these days. And there are plenty of armchair analysts out there looking at the data too. You could easily start running the numbers yourself and come up with a very good list. My prediction; in the next few years a swing back to old-fashioned scouting, because right now everyone is running the same analytics and looking at the same few players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, Squid said: 2.5 million for the most creative player in league 1 for the past decade, who links up perfectly with marriott, who can play near enough every attacking position? No brainer for me I think there's a reason why he's available for that price and why nobody has signed him in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I think there's a reason why he's available for that price and why nobody has signed him in that time. what would you say the reason is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ambitious said: I think it would take a strong bid to get him in January, he's key to Pboro's promotion bid and they're currently third. I think you pay 40% more in January than you do in the summer, regardless of which league they're in. he's got a release clause mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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