Van der MoodHoover Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: If we lose our most valuable player to a lengthy injury only days after celebrating that we didn't sell him for millions, it would probably be a good time to give up. Curtis Davies, Forysth (how many times), George Thorne (how many times), Marcus Olson, Will Hughes etc etc, if we had a league table for injured players I wouldn't be surprised to see us top. Champions of Europe mate......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said: no word on the official site. don't know if thats a good thing or a bad thing, or just a thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said: no word on the official site. don't know if thats a good thing or a bad thing, or just a thing.... I go by the old saying no news, is no news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 he was training today, running rings around huddlestone, even with his boot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukedcfc Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I Hope it's not his Achilles' tendon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I hope it's not a ruptured testicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, Squid said: he was training today, running rings around huddlestone, even with his boot on. Welcome Marcelo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: Welcome Marcelo! You called me Ed yesterday and today I'm Marcelo, fair enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Squid said: You called me Ed yesterday and today I'm Marcelo, fair enough! I used get confused between your two personas all the time. Then I realised if I see you on ITV being a crazy cop then you're Ed Dawes and if I hear you on Radio Draby you're Marcella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, Squid said: You called me Ed yesterday and today I'm Marcelo, fair enough! I can't keep up with your split personalities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 “Out for some time” but “weeks not months” which I guess is a positive outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TibshelfRam Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 'Weeks, not months' is more positive than I'd perhaps feared. But I still feel that we are far less of an attacking threat without a natural right sided player. We clearly are looking for our two wingers (on either side) to cut in and join the attack. The attacking onus thereby falls to our full backs - its no coincidence that Bogle has either assisted or scored 11 goals in recent games. Lowe will do a solid job, I'm sure. But being left footed takes away the attacking threat that we have down the right - he won't overlap in the same way. And thus far this season, Bogle has probably been our most potent attacking threat. Early days, I know, but still a concern. I'd feel much more relaxed if Anya was fit - for all that we knock him, he could do a decent job there. I'm just concerned that this will stifle our attacking play a fair bit. Hopefully I'm proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirelines Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Over-lapping centre-backs, anyone? "Keogh Keogh Keogh!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, TibshelfRam said: 'Weeks, not months' is more positive than I'd perhaps feared. But I still feel that we are far less of an attacking threat without a natural right sided player. We clearly are looking for our two wingers (on either side) to cut in and join the attack. The attacking onus thereby falls to our full backs - its no coincidence that Bogle has either assisted or scored 11 goals in recent games. Lowe will do a solid job, I'm sure. But being left footed takes away the attacking threat that we have down the right - he won't overlap in the same way. And thus far this season, Bogle has probably been our most potent attacking threat. Early days, I know, but still a concern. I'd feel much more relaxed if Anya was fit - for all that we knock him, he could do a decent job there. I'm just concerned that this will stifle our attacking play a fair bit. Hopefully I'm proved wrong. He is a big miss, but its a sorry state of affairs when your right back is you main attacking threat, the rest of the team (mainly the wingers) need to pull their finger out and start creating more chances and taking up better positions. I reckon if we see a midfield 3 of Knight ,Shinnie and Beilik against Stoke that will help add abit more energy and creativity to the side, then we just need the wingers to do a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TibshelfRam Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Marriott Ram99 said: He is a big miss, but its a sorry state of affairs when your right back is you main attacking threat, the rest of the team (mainly the wingers) need to pull their finger out and start creating more chances and taking up better positions. I reckon if we see a midfield 3 of Knight ,Shinnie and Beilik against Stoke that will help add abit more energy and creativity to the side, then we just need the wingers to do a lot better. But don't you think that its a deliberate play for our wingers to be a main attacking outlet? Would you say that Liverpool are in a sorry state of affairs for the majority of their attacking play to come from TAA or Robertson? So many teams across Europe now do it - the main purpose now, it seems, of a full back, is to overlap and be an attacking threat. Its clearly our intention. And given that the wingers are going to be encouraged to cut inside, providing width is very much part of the remit of our full backs. And I have no problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, TibshelfRam said: But don't you think that its a deliberate play for our wingers to be a main attacking outlet? Would you say that Liverpool are in a sorry state of affairs for the majority of their attacking play to come from TAA or Robertson? So many teams across Europe now do it - the main purpose now, it seems, of a full back, is to overlap and be an attacking threat. Its clearly our intention. And given that the wingers are going to be encouraged to cut inside, providing width is very much part of the remit of our full backs. And I have no problem with that. No but the thing is Liverpool have two world class wingers who contribute a lot with goals and assists, where as Bogle has been doing a lot more in an attacking sense than our wingers so theres no balance to it, also Liverpool have Robertson on the other side contributing where as our left backs get hardly any assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TibshelfRam Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Marriott Ram99 said: No but the thing is Liverpool have two world class wingers who contribute a lot with goals and assists, where as Bogle has been doing a lot more in an attacking sense than our wingers so theres no balance to it, also Liverpool have Robertson on the other side contributing where as our left backs get hardly any assists. I did mention Robertson. Malone may not get as many assists, but I think he looks dangerous. When he gets forward I think he can put a decent ball in. Liverpool's 'wingers' play more like forwards. Salah in particular does not play like a winger. In our 2 league games this season, Lawrence has scored 2. I'm not sure what more you can expect from him at this stage of the season. I agree that the wingers need to contribute more goals and assists. And I think that Cocu's plan to play them more inverted to get closer to Waghorn may well see that pay off. Thus far this season I think we're waiting to see things 'click' in an attacking sense. I still think that it will happen and that Holmes, Dowell, Jozefzzon/Paterson, Lawrence and Waghorn will look more dangerous moving forward. All I am saying is that it is a deliberate ploy to have Bogle and our full backs as one of our main attacking outlets. And I am more than happy for that to be the case. I don't consider it to be a sorry state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 How long before fozzys back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shang Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 hours ago, desirelines said: Over-lapping centre-backs, anyone? "Keogh Keogh Keogh!" We genuinely could with Keogh who can play right back, Clarke who seems to love running forward with the ball (like Maguire) and Bielik who can play beat a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 According to the latest news on SSN Cocu has stated that Bogle "will be out for the next couple of matches" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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