Wolfie20 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 14 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Long term view is getting a better left back signed than what we have ? Doesn't that apply to every position in the team and LB is nowhere near being our weakest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 The worry for me is that we would sell Lowe for under market value and have to replace him, with teams knowing roughly what we have to spend. Lowe won't be on large wages and he's the youngest, arguably the best of the three/four left backs we have. He is also the one that is likely the attract the largest fee. I do think our fullbacks tend to be criticised for playing the system setup by Cocu. We play with a narrow defence, with very little additional help from our wingers when defending. It allows teams to double up on the outside and put crosses in the box. When going man-for-man it's not often either get beat: Lowe 106 tackles/31 dribbled past and Bogle 65/24. Matty Cash, who has been revered this season for his performances, is 110/34. Antonee Robinson who is primed for a move to the Premier League and very nearly went to AC Milan is 84/55. Luke Ayling is 46/25. You look at Ayling's numbers and you can see that he was a lot better protected by the system in place, Bielsa doesn't allow teams to double up outside and that's why they concede on average 10 fewer crosses than us a game. We play a system that allows teams to double up outside and due to us having extremely limited pace in the wide attacking positions also plays into that as full-backs don't feel like they are ever going to be caught out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enachops Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Big season for Lowe I feel. He needs to fulfil his potential and push on this year. For me, he has all the attributes to be a good championship full back, but currently there is a sloppiness in his play. His passing can be frustratingly poor on occasions although he is a footballing left back. He needs to bulk up in the air and physically in general. One on one’s I like how he gets close and is very quick on his feet to close the space, but he still switches off and is getting to the age where that is unacceptable. Big year ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Lowe can look world class or dire on any given game. I’d either play him as first choice or go with Buchanan. Need to start playing these kids to increase there values and I think they are both capable of cementing a place in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatRam Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Doubt we’re selling lowe. If anyone is leaving in that position it’s malone. Rowett said that millwall ain’t after lowe either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I think the main thing he lacks is controlled aggression. Not mentally though enough. Needs to learn fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sean said: United are flush with cash. £15m surely. How much did they pay for mcburnie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, RamNut said: United are flush with cash. £15m surely. How much did they pay for mcburnie? 15 mill ? How much is Lowe worth then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Lowe leaving for 5m is disappointing, but understandable. Bogle leaving for 5m is an absolute insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 We're finally dealing with our abundance of pace and attacking mentality. We need Shackell in at RB. I never used to rate Lawrence but the more useful attackers we get rid of the higher i rate him. He could actually be our superstar soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 £11m for both of them isn’t awful. It’s probably £2/3m shy of what we might have got in a normal non COVID season. Lowe is in the last year of his contract. £2m seems reasonable for a top half championship left back who can leave for free next summer. That means we’re losing Bogle for £9m in my mind. That’s £3m less than what a lot of people would be content with but he had a fairly indifferent season last year so they’re paying for potential. If it allows Cocu to strengthen with 3 additions he believe will allow us to move to the next level then it’s probably a good deal for all involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Let's say the sale of Lowe is £3mill. That's about what we spent on Malone who at the time was an established LB in the prime of his career and had (at least?) one promotion on his CV already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 If i was Lowe id want to go. Last year of contract, chance to play in the prem. I'd be forcing the move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buckley’s Dog Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, G-Ram said: If i was Lowe id want to go. Last year of contract, chance to play in the prem. I'd be forcing the move If I was Max Lowe I would be practising kicking a football with my right foot, but that's just me. I could apply that to most modern day footballers to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Steve Buckley’s Dog said: If I was Max Lowe I would be practising kicking a football with my right foot, but that's just me. I could apply that to most modern day footballers to be fair. Exactly why you'd jump at the chance to go up a league.. Might not get the chance again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said: Lowe leaving for 5m is disappointing, but understandable. Bogle leaving for 5m is an absolute insult. You don’t honestly believe the £10m is split evenly between both players do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: You don’t honestly believe the £10m is split evenly between both players do you? I don’t, but there’s reports saying Bogle is 5m. In fact there’s now reports it’s only 8m for the pair up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I don’t, but there’s reports saying Bogle is 5m. In fact there’s now reports it’s only 8m for the pair up front. Reports from Football Insider which is as another poster eloquently puts it a load of toss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Reports from Football Insider which is as another poster eloquently puts it a load of toss To be fair I agree on their reliability. But I do believe the Telegraph. And regardless of who cost what, 10m even as a starting point for the pair of them isn’t enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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