Comrade 86 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Smith is a real problem for our bowling attack who can't seem to get him out. Sure, he's a top batter and most teams will have this issue but his average in recent tests against England must be well over 100 so I think we are compelled to try something different. With Jimmy's fitness in question, do we look at Jofra? His red ball stats are good, he can bowl at a pace that troubles even the best batsmen and he seems adept at mixing up his deliveries and has the full range in his armoury. We saw in the World Cup that he also handles pressure well, and I think he would give Smith something different to think about. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Smith is a real problem for our bowling attack who can't seem to get him out. Sure, he's a top batter and most teams will have this issue but his average in recent tests against England must be well over 100 so I think we are compelled to try something different. With Jimmy's fitness in question, do we look at Jofra? His red ball stats are good, he can bowl at a pace that troubles even the best batsmen and he seems adept at mixing up his deliveries and has the full range in his armoury. We saw in the World Cup that he also handles pressure well, and I think he would give Smith something different to think about. Thoughts? I'd have had him in the side this test. Easy Hindsight decision I guess, but definitely in the next test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Great to see Steve Smith doing well from a cricketing purist point of view. He’s learnt his lesson and seems to mean it, now it’s time for everyone to move on. It’s good to see that great batsmen are still around as there was one point after the previous generation of batsmen retired where the quality of batting had really declined. Steve Smith, Kane Williamson, Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and Shakib Al hasan are the top 5 batsmen for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, McLovin said: Great to see Steve Smith doing well from a cricketing purist point of view. He’s learnt his lesson and seems to mean it, now it’s time for everyone to move on. It’s good to see that great batsmen are still around as there was one point after the previous generation of batsmen retired where the quality of batting had really declined. Steve Smith, Kane Williamson, Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and Shakib Al hasan are the top 5 batsmen for me. Yeah, watching him score 300 runs against us in the first test of an Ashes series has absolutely delighted the purist in me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Surely a purist wouldn’t want a cheat like him anywhere near the game ever again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Read this morning Chris wokes had said "we will hatch a plan to get Steve Smith out" which it turned out was "let him make a huge score then hope he eventually stuffs one up" Was disappointed with the bowling today and the lack of pressure, in a way I felt sorry for stokes and broard bowling at those fields. Iching powder in lyon's undies please mr Australian team Hotel staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boycie said: Surely a purist wouldn’t want a cheat like him anywhere near the game ever again? I could forgive him if was poo. Or not Australian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Boycie said: Surely a purist wouldn’t want a cheat like him anywhere near the game ever again? I didn’t hear anyone complaining about stokes after his performance in the World Cup final and saying he shouldn’t have been selected or been in jail. And no-one mentions Mike Atherton’s ball tampering anymore, people have forgiven him ?♂️. Smith’s done his time, I thought the length of the ban imposed was too harsh. People have done some things far worse in cricket than smith and no-one mentions them. Nasser Hussain has it bang on, we need to move on and admire what a brilliant player smith is. 11 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Yeah, watching him score 300 runs against us in the first test of an Ashes series has absolutely delighted the purist in me. Not saying anyone should be glad he’s scoring all these runs, but he should be admired for the brilliant player he is, you have to hold your hands up and say he’s a fantastic player. I do feel sorry for him though, he came across really emotional in his interview and all the criticism obviously hurt him, he’s not like a David Warner who thrives off people hating on him. It’s also not Smith’s fault England haven’t found an effective solution yet. People complaining about smith and saying he should be banned completely comes across as saltynsss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Herwe we go ?♀️ I'm outta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Herwe we go ?♀️ I'm outta here. I don’t want to make you feel uncomfortable posting here, please do carry on posting, I like talking to people about different sports. People will have different opinions on a forum, I certainly won’t take offence if you have a different view. I like engaging in discussions with people with opposing views on a issue. I think we can both agree that Smith makes Australia far more competitive. Without him, Australia are a lot weaker. I actually don’t like ashes series to be a whitewash either way, which I think it would be if smith didn’t play. I like them to be tight and competitive to the very end because it makes for intriguing viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, McLovin said: I like engaging in discussions with people with opposing views on a issue. I think we can both agree that Smith makes Australia far more competitive. 1 hour ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Smith is a real problem for our bowling attack who can't seem to get him out. Sure, he's a top batter and most teams will have this issue but his average in recent tests against England must be well over 100 so I think we are compelled to try something different. ?♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: ?♀️ I think the commentators mentioned that Smith tends to struggle against left arm spin, could be worth looking into for the next test for the England selectors. But then there is the issue of bringing in a player just to deal with one Australian player. This the the closest statistic I’ve found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Well survived at the end from the openers but no pressure from us on the aussie batters. I found England’s treatment of Smith both bizarre and annoying. To spread the field like that in order to get him off strike was tantamount to telling him we’re not going to try to get him out. In the first innings of an ashes series with the lots down for not many runs. We already look intimidated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Smith is a real problem for our bowling attack who can't seem to get him out. Sure, he's a top batter and most teams will have this issue but his average in recent tests against England must be well over 100 so I think we are compelled to try something different. With Jimmy's fitness in question, do we look at Jofra? His red ball stats are good, he can bowl at a pace that troubles even the best batsmen and he seems adept at mixing up his deliveries and has the full range in his armoury. We saw in the World Cup that he also handles pressure well, and I think he would give Smith something different to think about. Thoughts? Jofra isnt fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 10 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: his average in recent tests against England must be well over 100 His last 10 ashes innings he's got 1120 runs at an average of 140 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 Smith now has more test runs in the last 16 months than Moeen Ali and he was banned for 15 and a half of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Can always rely on England's batsmen to dig in and d a good salvage job when the chips are........er..........oh, hang on...................? Although it did look as thought Lyon was a cut above our spinners and the ball was doing stuff it wasn't for our attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Classic start from England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I expect a whitewash, we have lost the ability to bat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 We're barely 40 overs into the first innings of the match and it's "can England hang around with the bat long enough to get a draw if there is some more rain" mode. Its pretty clear the whole focus on thd ODI side has been at the expense of thd test side. It was going to be a hard series against Australia regardless but its looking like a poor effort from. England. another one bites the dust.... 4 down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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