DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 With the comments about not buying players if it is likely to block an academy products route. Which position do you see us BUYING players? I'll start Gk- not sure.. roos not filling me with confidence, Mitchell had high hopes but nothing much come of it (if roos is ahead of him still after being an u21 GK it concerns me). Not seen enough in the academy Rb- not unless Bogle is sold but if he goes not seen enough to be convinced we have a second first team standard academy RB Lb- no I would hope one of Mcdonald or Lowe will make it Cb- yes both Davies and Keogh are aging, I don't see both of Buchanan and hunt making it and that still leaves a shortage. Cm/am- no unless we need a big physical dm for our tactics, not seen anything who offers that. Plenty of technical, creative and energetic players going forward Wg/wide forward- no St- no and good first team options at the moment So assuming no sales (bogle) I am saying a max of 2 permanent signings. Like the look of Walton for the gk and cb I've not seen anything inspiring yet unless Chelsea and lampard massively u turn on tomori. Get the debate about whether the kids are good enough now and more do we have options at some point coming through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Centre back, midfield poss GK if Carson goes. Apart from that loans if they're likely to improve the first team (like last season) Baring in mind, even if not ideal the squad with no additions at present is capable of upper midtable in the division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Still think a winger would be a plus. Think if we manage to get Tomori back it would obviously be on loan but have a sneaking suspicion there'll be some wording about a permanent deal based around promotion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 GK: Roos with a full preseason as number one will do him good, not too fussed if we bring another in. Fullbacks: don't need to bring anyone in, more than enough senior players. Youngsters have looked good enough to step in too. CB: Tomori would be the dream, otherwise a cheap fee/cover loan would do. Midfield: don't need anyone. Youngsters are more than good enough, let them prove themselves. We can always go to the tried and tested Huddlestone. Strikers: more than enough, again there's youngsters ready to step into the fold. Wingers: would like to have seen more of the u23s in Pre season. If we're going to spend any substantial amounts it needs to be on a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook1988 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said: GK: Roos with a full preseason as number one will do him good, not too fussed if we bring another in. Fullbacks: don't need to bring anyone in, more than enough senior players. Youngsters have looked good enough to step in too. CB: Tomori would be the dream, otherwise a cheap fee/cover loan would do. Midfield: don't need anyone. Youngsters are more than good enough, let them prove themselves. We can always go to the tried and tested Huddlestone. Strikers: more than enough, again there's youngsters ready to step into the fold. Wingers: would like to have seen more of the u23s in Pre season. If we're going to spend any substantial amounts it needs to be on a winger. Who have we got for midfield then? Hudders past it, Thorne not good enough anymore, dowell is the only recognised cm we have so we need at least 2 more CM, oh forgot Holmes is ok, Evans rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I would get a CB, GK and CM on a permanent. Both CBs ageing and only really got Shinnie and Holmes in CM as senior players that I’d like us to keep. So 3 good senior CMs with the likes of Sibley, knight and Bird filling in. fill in with loans for the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, TheRamsAreGoingUp said: Who have we got for midfield then? Hudders past it, Thorne not good enough anymore, dowell is the only recognised cm we have so we need at least 2 more CM, oh forgot Holmes is ok, Evans rubbish Huddlestone Thorne Evans Shinnie Dowell Holmes Sibley Bird Knight so unless any more are sold or sent on loan we have 9 for 2/3 positions is more than enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcfan1 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Huddlestone Thorne Evans Shinnie Dowell Holmes Sibley Bird Knight so unless any more are sold or sent on loan we have 9 for 2/3 positions is more than enough Dowell ans holmes only two decent CMs Thorne is a crock, huddlestone is past it Sibley Bird knight just youngsters cant be playing week in week out, unproven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, TheRamsAreGoingUp said: Who have we got for midfield then? Hudders past it, Thorne not good enough anymore, dowell is the only recognised cm we have so we need at least 2 more CM, oh forgot Holmes is ok, Evans rubbish Bird, Sibley, Shinnie. No point loaning another teams youngsters when we had the best under 18s team in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook1988 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Agree if we want to be mid table then play the youngsters but if we want promotion send them on loan to play every week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, TheRamsAreGoingUp said: Who have we got for midfield then? Hudders past it, Thorne not good enough anymore, dowell is the only recognised cm we have so we need at least 2 more CM, oh forgot Holmes is ok, Evans rubbish I think the only question mark is around a physical battler as I don't see one coming through the academy and there's doubts about huddlestones mobility and thornes injury record. Looks a lot like Evans is now being deployed as a cb. Dm/physical presence- first team: one of Thorne or huddlestone realistically. Possibly a signing who offers some longevity to the role Remaining two places- dowell, holmes, shinnie plus sibley, bird, Knight. I think that's plenty for those two places whether it's a cm&am or two cms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuskus Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: I think the only question mark is around a physical battler as I don't see one coming through the academy and there's doubts about huddlestones mobility and thornes injury record. Looks a lot like Evans is now being deployed as a cb. Dm/physical presence- first team: one of Thorne or huddlestone realistically. Possibly a signing who offers some longevity to the role Remaining two places- dowell, holmes, shinnie plus sibley, bird, Knight. I think that's plenty for those two places whether it's a cm&am or two cms. Yeah I agree fully with that I would rather have Huddlestone than Thorne We need a GK CB CDM Winger RB can have Bateman as cover as he has looked good during pre season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuskus Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 We need a GK CB CDM and a winger Dont need Carson Wisdom Forsyth Thorne Butterfield Anya Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 If the question is essentially "in what positions do we lack particularly talented youths", it's probably CB and, imo, GK. That's probably it. Although the defenders playing with the first team this summer have done quite well. Although after Bogle, our young RBs are pretty average- so I could forsee buying a RB to become our #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Midfield general required anything else is a bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Personally I don’t think it’ll be as simple as well only buy permanents who don’t block the academy route. It’s what was hinted at certainly, but it seems a little idealistic. Think it’ll be more a case if identifying what we need, and seeing which players are available in those positions on both perms and loans- and then decide based upon the quality of loan options available where to use our loan quota (well use the full amount allowed) and where to perm move. If we do go with the theoretical that we will go the route suggested mind (and also for the sake of simplicity no one leave, though that won’t be the case, and we play 433) then I’d say we have: Youths coming through underlined Gk- Carson, Roos, Mitchell, Ravas- No perms here RB- Bogle, Wisdom- No perms here CB- Keogh, Davies, Buchanan - 1 perm here LB- Malone, Forsyth, Lowe, Macdonald - No perms here CDM- Huddlestone, Thorne, Evans, Bird- No perms here CM- Shinnie, (butterfield), (Dowell), (Holmes), Sibley, Knight - Really debatable as to where you see certain players fitting in, id say anything between 0-2 perms here. Wing- Lawrence, Josefzoon, Bennett, Anya, Wilson, Mitchell-Lawson - No perms here ST- Marriott, Martin, Waghorn- no perms here So if no one leave, probably only between 1-3 perms if we go with the sorta logic hinted at in the press conference. I still think it’ll be more assessing who’s ready though from the youth players, using them if they are, and bringing in players in their positions if they’re not. That could lead to more perms potentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiltonoRama Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 A goalkeeper, Cover for Keogh and if we can find a right winger better than what we have happy days, oh and Tomiri back on a permanent obviously.. I'd controversially play Max Lowe instead of Lawrence on the left for the next friendly as he puts a better cross in, has more energy and he could also help Malone out in defence more. I think he'd excel in that role. (Might be tempted to play Bogle on the right up front too if Wisdom can get fit again..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 Guns Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, HiltonoRama said: A goalkeeper, Cover for Keogh and if we can find a right winger better than what we have happy days, oh and Tomiri back on a permanent obviously.. I'd controversially play Max Lowe instead of Lawrence on the left for the next friendly as he puts a better cross in, has more energy and he could also help Malone out in defence more. I think he'd excel in that role. (Might be tempted to play Bogle on the right up front too if Wisdom can get fit again..) Go home and don't drink anymore alcohol. And i don't just mean tonight. Dont drink anymore alcohol ever. Like ever again. Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 a CB, GK and at least 2 more creative midfielders, as we need the competition loans would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 16 hours ago, RamLad1884 said: Bird, Sibley, Shinnie. No point loaning another teams youngsters when we had the best under 18s team in the country. Not sure he is any where near 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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