BaaLocks Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Phoenix said: Comments about Mel learning from his mistakes also amaze me. You don't leave school at 15/16 and amass his wealth if you don't learn from mistakes. So by that logic you must also be a fan of Mike Ashley and the Glazers? I would completely disagree that wealthy people are destined to be those who learn from their mistakes - in my experience many get it right / lucky once and then think that means they have the answer to everything. It's a story written many times in the annals (yes, two n's) of business, with a rather large chapter dedicated to football club owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Mel Morris and Brian Clough what a combo that would have been. That relationship would never have got to 44 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Normally you have factors a)money to do it, b) ability to do it and c) the reason for doing it and to get all three very much in the pro column is a very good place to be and very very rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 You can only give the ultimate verdict on any tenure after they have left .Mel has had a mixed bag since he took over, if we eventually get promoted they everyone will be positive if we don't then well we know the answer to that one.I like Mel I hope he gets over the line and gets at least some of his money back . In terms of success Longson was obviously the best until he had his mental aberration and got rid of the best manager we ever had.And yes I know he resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, BaaLocks said: So by that logic you must also be a fan of Mike Ashley and the Glazers? I would completely disagree that wealthy people are destined to be those who learn from their mistakes - in my experience many get it right / lucky once and then think that means they have the answer to everything. It's a story written many times in the annals (yes, two n's) of business, with a rather large chapter dedicated to football club owners. Mel seems to have 'got lucky' more than once. Suggests he's astute. I didn't say I was a fan of Mel's, just that I believe he's astute and probably learns from his mistakes. No. I'm not a fan of Ashley in any way whatsoever, and neither know nor care about the Glazers. By the way, I am fan of Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Can’t really answers @Curtains because I don’t have all the evidence. In my family’s experience yes. My/our opinion from personal experience is that we would find it hard not to sing the clubs praises in terms of values and treatment of fans. Obviously some of the transfer stuff seems to have been bonkers but who knows the ins and outs of that? And a good @Curtains thread by the way. Always had you down as a being a prime suspect for being one of Mel’s accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, Van Cone De Head said: Can’t really answers @Curtains because I don’t have all the evidence. In my family’s experience yes. My/our opinion from personal experience is that we would find it hard not to sing the clubs praises in terms of values and treatment of fans. Obviously some of the transfer stuff seems to have been bonkers but who knows the ins and outs of that? And a good @Curtains thread by the way. Always had you down as a being a prime suspect for being one of Mel’s accounts. Mel was from Littleover near me. Self made man is Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 14 hours ago, Ramchope said: Can anyone name any of our owners other than the modern ones and Longson/Pickering? Adam Pearson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, DRBee said: Short memory I am afraid - think about attitudes to Lionel Pickering when we had promotion and Pride Park was complete. Mel has made some mistakes and though on a good run now he might make more. Verdicts are premature all i was saying was with all the modern media that Mel has he has more opportunities.And i certainly dont remember Lionel hosting fan forum nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, Curtains said: Mel was from Littleover near me. Self made man is Mel. Made some faces smile in my house when I didn’t think it was possible,we’ll always love him for that. I had you down as a Mel account and @RoyMac5 as his stirring account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Interesting read after Burton https://www.dcfc.co.uk/page/the-history-of-Derby-county Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 After some questionable early calls, I'd say Mel has really got to grips with the task at hand and is doing a fantastic job. He's clearly a true fan first and foremost and I feel grateful to have him at the helm. I like and buy into his vision fot the club and feel confident he will bring us great success in time. Is he the best? Who knows. I wouldn't swap him for anyone right now that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Its a big YES here, we have changed from a club with some history, to a Prem club in waiting. Everything is in place, from facilities to the Academy, with a squad that is starting to take shape, we may be almost there after this window. The biggest thing for me is the excitement and hope that MM generates, just listen to the interview re PC, that's a FAN talking, not just a CEO. Just hope we can get the extra investment necessary to keep him for the foreseeable future, when we go up, we will need to stay there, and MM ensures the best chance of that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Key Club King Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Owners are ultimately judged by who they appoint as manager and whether or not they are successful. Despite pronouncements of “perfect fits” and “only one candidate” this choice is pretty much pot luck that no club or owner consistently gets right. I would say the best approach is to chuck as much money as possible at it until eventually it turns out ok. Mel is doing this whilst doing lots of other good things around the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuket Ram Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 19/07/2019 at 12:13, MackworthRamIsGod said: Last thing you want from a chairman is for them to go missing when it matters. Unless your name's Maxwell maybe........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkRam Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 19/07/2019 at 11:16, TibshelfRam said: I preferred the Three Amigos. Chevy Chase at his best imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of Ayrshire Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 No he is not for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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