ThePrisoner Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: The Percy article says that he will need convincing. It’s a good job we have Morris. Talks so well, as shown on TalkSport. Show him the ground, show him the training facilities, show him the £2m welcome aboard cheque and we're off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I wonder if he'll take a leaf out of McClaren's book and do all of his press conferences in Dutch but with an English accent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Big Dave incoming imminently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I wonder what it will take to convince him... (Mel get selling!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Safe to say I am happy about today's news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Not with their injury records! As per the second half of that post - no straight face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 You say P. Cocu I say P. Kaku let's call the whole thing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Are we going to start believing journalists again? Yes. If it's rumours we like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Some comments on Cocu from PSV fans: Complaining that PSV plays boring football is an old tradition in the Netherlands. Ajax created the Dutch school that influenced classic international and club sides (Barcelona still worships Cruyff), but recently that style of play has shown its weakness. Failing Dutch trainers in England and the Dutch national team are prime examples. Over here a 4-3-3 where every player contributes to every phase of play (simplified description, long post already) is seen as the way the game is meant to be played. PSV and Cocu however, don't mind playing a reactionary game, even when they're favourites. PSV under Cocu usually played a deep 4-3-3 or 4-5-1, banking on the speed of their attackers to counter against tough opponents, or on creativity against weaker opponents. Our attackers have been great for this, like Depay and Lozano. Our defenders have been less flashy (Isimat, Schwaab, and the better player Moreno), but they do a fine job for a top side in the division. PSV under Cocu have benefited most from a great controlling and creative midfield. Players like Guardado and Hendrix are all over the place, leaving room for creativity from Pereiro or van Ginkel. In summary, PSV are often favoured to win their games, and usually will do just that. Cocu, however, doesn't shy away from defending against seemingly weak opponents. You'll also find him 1-0 up at home against a bottom tier team, and sub an attacker for an extra defender. This doesn't always make him popular, but it did make us champions 3 times, and gave us a great UCL run with Guardado, Moreno and Depay, where we only went out against later finalists Atletico on penalties. ------ I think Cocu is a smart coach, he'll be quick to understand the league's mentality. However, he's a very quiet and calm guy, so he might not always seem like he understands the fans and players. Trust me, he does. As for a club culture, it's difficult to say, he came in at PSV as a club icon (started and finished his best years here, was always loved in Eindhoven), so he didn't have to craft a culture. He did naturally fit in, of course. He has experimented quite a bit with youth players, Bergwijn has been a notable good example of recent years. Youth is a necessity in the Dutch league though, so he has to use them, our best players always get picked by top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: Some comments on Cocu from PSV fans: Complaining that PSV plays boring football is an old tradition in the Netherlands. Ajax created the Dutch school that influenced classic international and club sides (Barcelona still worships Cruyff), but recently that style of play has shown its weakness. Failing Dutch trainers in England and the Dutch national team are prime examples. Over here a 4-3-3 where every player contributes to every phase of play (simplified description, long post already) is seen as the way the game is meant to be played. PSV and Cocu however, don't mind playing a reactionary game, even when they're favourites. PSV under Cocu usually played a deep 4-3-3 or 4-5-1, banking on the speed of their attackers to counter against tough opponents, or on creativity against weaker opponents. Our attackers have been great for this, like Depay and Lozano. Our defenders have been less flashy (Isimat, Schwaab, and the better player Moreno), but they do a fine job for a top side in the division. PSV under Cocu have benefited most from a great controlling and creative midfield. Players like Guardado and Hendrix are all over the place, leaving room for creativity from Pereiro or van Ginkel. In summary, PSV are often favoured to win their games, and usually will do just that. Cocu, however, doesn't shy away from defending against seemingly weak opponents. You'll also find him 1-0 up at home against a bottom tier team, and sub an attacker for an extra defender. This doesn't always make him popular, but it did make us champions 3 times, and gave us a great UCL run with Guardado, Moreno and Depay, where we only went out against later finalists Atletico on penalties. ------ I think Cocu is a smart coach, he'll be quick to understand the league's mentality. However, he's a very quiet and calm guy, so he might not always seem like he understands the fans and players. Trust me, he does. As for a club culture, it's difficult to say, he came in at PSV as a club icon (started and finished his best years here, was always loved in Eindhoven), so he didn't have to craft a culture. He did naturally fit in, of course. He has experimented quite a bit with youth players, Bergwijn has been a notable good example of recent years. Youth is a necessity in the Dutch league though, so he has to use them, our best players always get picked by top teams. The reality is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 35 minutes ago, JfR said: I wonder if he'll take a leaf out of McClaren's book and do all of his press conferences in Dutch but with an English accent Dutch Scouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 34 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Safe to say I am happy about today's news. I’m ready. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: The reality is..... Stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, McLovin said: Lampard who? We’ve got Cocu! You beat me to it @McLovin. Frank who indeed. ‘74 ‘78 Total football Dutch teams stunning football. Perhaps we all need to hold on to our horses just for now but this COULD be very exciting I’d say! Should be pretty good for tourism too, always wanted to go to Holland. Hurry up Frank sign the papers ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, David said: I’m ready. ?? Praying we have an orange third kit now... ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 He may be a tactical genius but can he start the bounce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Check this out Jack...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: He may be a tactical genius but can he start the bounce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Interesting report about why he failed at Fenerbahce https://www.tellerreport.com/sports/--fenerbahçe-preses-dismisses-assistants-because-of--bizarre-conspiracy--against-cocu-.BkUFsCoq7.html borrowed from https://twitter.com/LewisJubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Certainly for me, and I think for many others, Cocu's name being mentioned was a massive relief from the humdrum of candidates that were being listed. However, I think we all got over excited too quickly.....it's far from a done deal. I no longer trust any of the journos - we've seen how they re-hash stories and now they seem to be doing that over the original Dutch article which offered an opinion that Cocu will need to choose his next job carefully after failing in Turkey. Fair comment - turned by the British media into "serious concerns over players, budgets etc" as though it was fact and that he had turned the Rams down. Nevertheless, it will still take something to land him. One other thing....I am sure Mel has been working behind the scenes for some time though, I trust him to make the right choice, but I'm sure someone (Mel on Talksport?) said he hoped somebody would be in place for the trip to the US on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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