Carnero Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, bigbadbob said: Nah ! It's going to be a long summer at this rate Roberto... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 31/05/2019 at 20:28, HantsRam said: They've all conducted themselves really well. Best set of loanees I can remember us having. Sure we've had the individual good un. But to have 3 forming the nucleus of our side so successfully is unprecedented for us. ? to all 3 of them. Has Leon osman finally had to hand over his king of the loan crown? I think tomori has taken it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 17 hours ago, Ramos said: Has Leon osman finally had to hand over his king of the loan crown? I think tomori has taken it. I think Wisdom already took it - And then made the rookie mistake of signing for us permanently - Everyone knows a player is MUCH worse when he's a Derby player than when he's someone else's player However I do agree with the sentiment - Tomori definitely number 1 loan player (although much love for Wilson and Mount still) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, cheron85 said: I think Wisdom already took it - And then made the rookie mistake of signing for us permanently - Everyone knows a player is MUCH worse when he's a Derby player than when he's someone else's player However I do agree with the sentiment - Tomori definitely number 1 loan player (although much love for Wilson and Mount still) If Wisdom took it off Osman (doubtful, I suspect) then Thorne definitely took it off Wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 3 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: If Wisdom took it off Osman (doubtful, I suspect) then Thorne definitely took it off Wisdom. I hear thorne betrayed wisdom after supporting his claim for the crown. I might be getting things mixed up though #gameofthornes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ramos said: I hear thorne betrayed wisdom after supporting his claim for the crown. I might be getting things mixed up though #gameofthornes Forget Game of Thrones, that’s Michael Gove and Boris Johnson a few years back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK-Ram Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Named in the leaked Celtic transfer targets meeting minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryram Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 12 hours ago, MK-Ram said: Named in the leaked Celtic transfer targets meeting minutes. Would be a massive step back for the lad, a few competitive games a season and that's just champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, harryram said: Would be a massive step back for the lad, a few competitive games a season and that's just champions league. Those few competitive games a season didn’t do Van Dijk any problems... far too disrespectful to that league when we had two teams finish on nearly 100 points (and over 20 points higher than the next best side) in the supposed best league in the world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryram Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, IlsonDerby said: Those few competitive games a season didn’t do Van Dijk any problems... far too disrespectful to that league when we had two teams finish on nearly 100 points (and over 20 points higher than the next best side) in the supposed best league in the world... Disrespect for that league, it's garbage. Celtic would be a mid table prem team at very best, rangers championship and the others champ to league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I can sort of agree on the disrespect thing but the disparity in the SFL is massive in comparison. Beyond Celtic and Rangers there are three teams who average mid teens as their average attendance. The other seven (over half) don't average above 7,000. In fact the team ranked twelfth in the attendance league average only 2,829 fans per game. To put that into perspective, in English League football only 5 teams (Forest Green, Stevenage, Macclesfield, Crawley and Morecombe) have lower attendances and they all sit squarely in the lower echelons of our fourth tier. I know a teams ability isn't directly linked to how many watch them play but it certainly goes a long way to framing budgets etc. So in essence the quality of the challenge if Tomori did go over the border would be around the League 1 or 2 level for large parts of the season, lower championship for 12 games and high end Premier League for 4 games. Doesn't mean there aren't great clubs in Scotland or that great players can't come from or via Scotland, just that as an independent league it's a bit weak depth wise. If I were Tomori, I'd sit back and see what offers come in. I'd love it for him to decide to come back to Derby but I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to Germany instead of Premier League. This is because I think he's more suited to a top 6 EPL team who press high than a lower end team who look to contain. I just can't see him getting lots of game time in a top 6 EPL team. Yet. Definitely interesting times and choices for the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, harryram said: Disrespect for that league, it's garbage. Celtic would be a mid table prem team at very best, rangers championship and the others champ to league 1 So what you're saying is he'd be trading a upper-end championship side for a mid-table premier league standard side? Who just so happen to play a fair few teams no worse than our middle to lower sides in this division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, harryram said: Disrespect for that league, it's garbage. Celtic would be a mid table prem team at very best, rangers championship and the others champ to league 1 I think your being a but generous, put Celtic's team in the Championship and they would struggle to compete with for Playoffs. If you look at their side there's not many that would make it into our side. Maybe 2-3 at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, DcfcJB said: I think your being a but generous, put Celtic's team in the Championship and they would struggle to compete with for Playoffs. If you look at their side there's not many that would make it into our side. Maybe 2-3 at best. I don't agree - I'd have quite a few of their players - Simunovic I like, Griffiths and Sinclair would be good additions, Tierney and Forrest I've heard good things about - And I don't pay attention to scottish football If Shinnie is good enough for us and we're being linked with that Souttar lad then players at the team who comfortably won the league again must be good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, cheron85 said: I don't agree - I'd have quite a few of their players - Simunovic I like, Griffiths and Sinclair would be good additions, Tierney and Forrest I've heard good things about - And I don't pay attention to scottish football If Shinnie is good enough for us and we're being linked with that Souttar lad then players at the team who comfortably won the league again must be good enough Its easy to rubbish Celtic as they've no real domestic opposition then get humped by vastly superior European teams, but they do have some decent players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Celtic are a far, far bigger club than us and play in the Champions League. The league is slowly starting to get more competitive now that Rodgers has gone and Rangers are slowly improving. It would be an attractive prospect for any player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim charles Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Villa rumoured to be after him, apparently available for £12 million on a permanent deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWC1983 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 10 hours ago, DcfcJB said: I think your being a but generous, put Celtic's team in the Championship and they would struggle to compete with for Playoffs. If you look at their side there's not many that would make it into our side. Maybe 2-3 at best. I think you've got that round the wrong way. I reckon Bogle would improve Celtic. I honestly can't think of any other current Derby player that would get into Celtics starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Slim charles said: Villa rumoured to be after him, apparently available for £12 million on a permanent deal I reckon Tomori and Mings would be a good partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWC1983 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 9 hours ago, cheron85 said: I don't agree - I'd have quite a few of their players - Simunovic I like, Griffiths and Sinclair would be good additions, Tierney and Forrest I've heard good things about - And I don't pay attention to scottish football If Shinnie is good enough for us and we're being linked with that Souttar lad then players at the team who comfortably won the league again must be good enough You are correct. As much as is pains me to say it, Tierney would get a start at all top 6 clubs in England. He is a better player than Robertson. Ajier is being talked about as the next Van Djyk. Calum Mcgregor would make a good signing for mid table prem club. Leicester are meant to be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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