Grimbeard Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 A boring non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 06/06/2019 at 19:58, RoyMac5 said: Are you a member of a minority group? I wouldn't think so by your previous answers. But imagine supporting Derby away and standing in the Kop at Anfield, would you cheer the Rams on heartily and with great confidence? Be better to have a few like-minded mates with you I reckon. That's it, feeling more comfortable/secure with people who understand you and where you're from. my cousin's gay and has never encountered any problem at the game's . He's a popular fella and certainly not lacking in confidence . He also has a number of friend's who go with him to games who are not gay and have known him for year's. They are not concerned with how he lives his life as long as he's happy, neither are his family . He did get punched once for wearing a Republic of Ireland shirt. A dhead is a dhead . We all come across them and sexuality isn't more of trigger than anything else to my mind . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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G STAR RAM Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 8 hours ago, GboroRam said: And what has this got to do with football? Will you also be posting a picture of all straight people who have been attacked? How about a pic of all straight people who have been stabbed to death in London this year for no reason other than where they live? As others have said the scum of society will attack anyone. If there are any stats out there saying that there is a major problem within football that need addressing I will gladly accept that I'm wrong and that it needs addressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: If there are any stats out there saying that there is a major problem within football that need addressing I will gladly accept that I'm wrong and that it needs addressing. No gay footballers? 9 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: We all come across them and sexuality isn't more of trigger than anything else to my mind . You're not gay - ask someone who is that question, you might get a different answer. And I guess that might be what this research might be about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: No gay footballers? Aren't there? Do you know this for a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Just now, G STAR RAM said: Aren't there? Do you know this for a fact? Okay then no OUT gay footballers, what a straight lot they are! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 06/06/2019 at 20:10, G STAR RAM said: I don't object to it. I just see these things as trying to paint football in a bad light, perhaps I'm just oversensitive. Sure this may encourage more LGBT people to attend but im not sure how specifically having separate groups of fans does anything to address the problems if there are any. That's your feminine side coming out, and there's nothing wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I don’t think people have a problem with there being gay footballers or gay supporters. Yes, you can point to gay people who have been attacked for being gay, but you can point to people who have been attacked for supporting the opposite team. You can’t control the minority of idiots, but the majority shouldn’t be made to feel they aren’t accepting. Times have changed for the majority, my opinion is maybe that they’re making a big thing about it, and perhaps if one player did “come out” them it wouldn’t be as bad as some are assuming it would be. Many people work with colleagues that’s are LGBT, one of my customers are, probably more, I don’t view them any different. Football is tribal though, deal with the idiots when it happens and make examples of them with the punishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Okay then no OUT gay footballers, what a straight lot they are! ? And what's the problem with that? I imagine if there are gay footballers that they've come out to their teammates. Do gay shop workers come out to their customers? 2 minutes ago, eddie said: That's your feminine side coming out, and there's nothing wrong with it. Do you reckon I'll be able to join the DCFC Women Supporters Section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Aren't there? Do you know this for a fact? Course Roy doesn’t know for a fact. Just like he has no facts to back up his assertion yesterday that: Would the attackers have been brave enough to chose people who are seen as mainstream? No they chose a couple they could see belonged to an 'easily isolated minority'. Who they no doubt believed didn't belong in their normal world and most people couldn't give a toss about! Unless he was on the bus that day he only has an opinion. My guess is the scum who attacked those two women, would have similarly attacked anybody ‘mainstream’ if they thought they could achieve their scummy aims. The women were vulnerable on the upper deck of a late bus in London. Dangerous territory for anyone nowadays if they don’t have the ‘power’ to overcome 4 youths, anyone of whom might be carrying a blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Genuine question. Do the numerous gay pride events and marches get met with any anti gay protesters or comments along the way? I honestly don’t know? I always assumed they went off without problems and everyone had a great time, they always seem to be having a great time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boycie said: Genuine question. Do the numerous gay pride events and marches get met with any anti gay protesters or comments along the way? I honestly don’t know? The anti-gay protesters are put in a pen and made to do face painting. Some tremendous policing initiatives going on that are never publicised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, i-Ram said: The anti-gay protesters are put in a pen and made to do face painting. Some tremendous policing initiatives going on that are never publicised. Nice ? But you live close to Brighton mate, are there problems at these events? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Boycie said: Nice ? But you live close to Brighton mate, are there problems at these events? I have no stats buddy, but my experience, and my kids who are more regular attendees, is that these are always happy and peaceful events. I suspect more gay people are at risk at the Notting Hill Carnival than they are a Gay Pride event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, i-Ram said: I have no stats buddy, but my experience, and my kids who are more regular attendees, is that these are always happy and peaceful events. I suspect more gay people are at risk at the Notting Hill Carnival than they are a Gay Pride event. Maybe, I think the violence that effects the Notting Hill event is more to do with gangs cultures rather than discrimination nowadays. So I guess we’re all at risk at this event. Again, I’m probably wrong as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsLGBT Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 54 minutes ago, Boycie said: Genuine question. Do the numerous gay pride events and marches get met with any anti gay protesters or comments along the way? I honestly don’t know? I always assumed they went off without problems and everyone had a great time, they always seem to be having a great time? Policing at Pride events is usually excellently co-ordinated. Anti-LGBT protesters at these events would also be vastly outnumbered; on the whole they wouldn't even attempt to air their views here. They are much more likely to target isolated people such as the London bus incident. Even with Pride events, everybody is covered in rainbow flags, face paint etc. when they're in the city centre. I know a lot of people who as they're getting their bus home in the evening are taking off their rainbow flags and removing face paint because they don't want to be targeted when they're on their own. Safety in numbers, with like minded people. On an unrelated note from the above point, most of the discussion here has been about LGB, but not T. Trans people are the most marginalised out of the LGBT community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, ramsLGBT said: On an unrelated note from the above point, most of the discussion here has been about LGB, but not T. Trans people are the most marginalised out of the LGBT community. Wouldn’t it be true to say that a reasonably large percentage of LGB’s marginalise the T community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Wouldn’t it be true to say that a reasonably large percentage of LGB’s marginalise the T community? What has the tomato ever done to offend the lettuce, gherkin and bacon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I’ve filled the survey in with an honest view from a white male hetro, at least I think that’s my label (never know in these p.c times). If you are a Derby fan, you’re a Derby fan. We should be all inclusive without labels in truth for me. Live and let live, life’s really, really short, just make the most of it and let others do the same, so long as they cause you no harm. We’re all Derby here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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