B4ev6is Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Well with his mum gone for good few weeks but the pan going to be raw still so for me we all support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 56 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Well with his mum gone for good few weeks but the pan going to be raw still so for me we all support him. Quite right and well said B4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 No ones said he was crap yet have they? That’s because he was quite good behind Waghorn wasn’t he? Good effort lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makedoh Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Thought he’d done well today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Van Cone De Head said: No ones said he was crap yet have they? That’s because he was quite good behind Waghorn wasn’t he? Good effort lad. Losing people I loved and cared about been gone 3 years now but still feels like yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 big improvement today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Great player in. Needs more discipline in his play. A more reliable less gifted player could take his place if he is not careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Been a staunch supporter of Tom and have never really doubted his talent but you feel this is the season where he needs to really try and kick on. He ended last season in really good form, despite having a very difficult time of things off the pitch, so if he can pick up where he left off that'd be grand. Happily, it seems that PC has quickly worked out he's bext played though the middle, so I'm more than hopeful Tom can do a few teams some serious damage this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Good player is Tom. I think he is the type of player who needs to be loved. Hopefully Cocu will help him to show us what he can really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samtheram83 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 For me it seems the noise coming from the whole coaching staff is not just about winning games (although they do talk about wanting to win every game) but improving players. Tom is clearly gifted, I’d love to see him cut through defences like he did vs West Brom last game of the season more often. You have to think that this coaching set up will push him to be better and more consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Apparently when Cocu started at PSV as manager the average age of first team was about 21 according to Van Der Weerden. Cocu bought some players, trained them a bit and won the league the following season! Well hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 For me tom lawarance needs trust him self but everything been through you can understand why his mind was not always on it. But for me when he attacks teams like reading game opening games of the season connecting with brillient cross with header. Like wba game he was really good that game and leeds game after broke down final whistle understandly really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I have faith in Toms ability , Cocu and his staff now need to put their arm around him and convince him that he can be a top talent at this level and higher , there is a footballer in there fighting to get out , good luck for the season Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 On 15/07/2019 at 20:26, Jram said: I don't think Lawrence is bad but we did pay around 6 million for him right? I think it's reasonable to expect more from his this season which he may well provide as he was very good in the final part of last season It's similar to Bradley Johnson.. He was never bad but we paid 6 million for him so I think it's reasonable to hold him to a higher standard than, say, Mason Bennett This is silly though, he has no control over the fee? If we go on this then any player costing >£80m should be individually winning a team 15-20 points a season but they don't. That doesn't make them bad players. Just that the fee paid for them is out of their control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 16 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Been a staunch supporter of Tom and have never really doubted his talent but you feel this is the season where he needs to really try and kick on. He ended last season in really good form, despite having a very difficult time of things off the pitch, so if he can pick up where he left off that'd be grand. Happily, it seems that PC has quickly worked out he's bext played though the middle, so I'm more than hopeful Tom can do a few teams some serious damage this season. When did Paul Clement return??????? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: When did Paul Clement return??????? ? I thought it was Paul Connolly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jram Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 10 hours ago, IlsonDerby said: This is silly though, he has no control over the fee? If we go on this then any player costing >£80m should be individually winning a team 15-20 points a season but they don't. That doesn't make them bad players. Just that the fee paid for them is out of their control. I think that mindset is confusing the player as a person and the player as an asset though I'm not saying Tom Lawrence is necessarily at fault for his performances (although I'm sure some would argue that) but I think it's reasonable to suggest he's not performing as a 6 million pound asset ought to, same with any object anyone buys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Jram said: I think that mindset is confusing the player as a person and the player as an asset though I'm not saying Tom Lawrence is necessarily at fault for his performances (although I'm sure some would argue that) but I think it's reasonable to suggest he's not performing as a 6 million pound asset ought to, same with any object anyone buys Thing is, 5 years ago I’d agree with you but realistically none of us know what a £6m player ‘should’ look like anymore because the market is crazy. £6m when we first came down into the championship would buy you the best player in the league... now it buys one leg of a Bristol City defender. I’m ignoring fees completing until this bubble bursts and we get back to reasonable numbers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jram Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, IlsonDerby said: Thing is, 5 years ago I’d agree with you but realistically none of us know what a £6m player ‘should’ look like anymore because the market is crazy. £6m when we first came down into the championship would buy you the best player in the league... now it buys one leg of a Bristol City defender. I’m ignoring fees completing until this bubble bursts and we get back to reasonable numbers! Yeah it has gone a bit mad but can't see any reason it's going to change any time soon I think the fees paid for the likes of Lawrence say a lot about how terribly we handled transfers until recently Tbh, as boring as it is, I much prefer the current approach of shouting very loudly about our dire financial situation and being linked with nobody rather than advertising our riches and seeming to pay an inflated price ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 15/07/2019 at 20:26, Jram said: I don't think Lawrence is bad but we did pay around 6 million for him right? I think it's reasonable to expect more from his this season which he may well provide as he was very good in the final part of last season It's similar to Bradley Johnson.. He was never bad but we paid 6 million for him so I think it's reasonable to hold him to a higher standard than, say, Mason Bennett Only if less than £5m is "around 6 million". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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