Cam the Ram Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, SaintRam said: In all my time watching football, when you find out that a player's fallen out with a manager, you can see it in the player's demeanour. I can't recall a situation where that's occurred at any level and the player's performances haven't dropped or there's been moments where they've argued with the manager/teammates or been the picture of grumpiness on the sidelines. I really do think that Marriott's issue has been one of fitness. In all the time he's not been starting he hasn't been sulky or scowling on the bench, when he plays he looks like he's enjoying himself and he puts in 100% effort. I know that's what they're "supposed" to do, and maybe he is just the perfect professional, but history suggests players don't usually react that way to being left out over non-footballing reasons (which is the implication of this "falling out" rumour). Lampard and Jody have said the same thing every time they've been asked about Marriott not playing, that he doesn't really work hard enough out of possession. It makes sense when you think about all the tactical decisions they've made .... they demand that the forward works hard off the ball and presses the defence. Nugent hasn't scored for ages but he works harder off the ball than Marriott so was preferred, same for Waghorn and even at Wembley, with Waghorn returning from injury they chose to go with a fully fit Bennett over (I presume) a fully fit Marriott because he would work harder to press their defence. Hopefully a full preseason will be enough for them to get Marriott doing the job they want him to do and he'll be trusted as our main striker next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Key Club King Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 GK- Carson (unless sold, if so replace) RB-Bogle, LB - Malone CBs- Keogh, Davies CM - Shinnie, Holmes, New Forwards - Mariott, Waghorn, Lawrence. Subs - Forsyth, Evans, Bennett, Josefzoon, Thomas, Sell - Huddlestone, Wisdom, Thorne, Martin, Anya, Lowe. Hudds and Lowe are saleable but the others have little chance of being sold as they will be lucky to get half their current wage elsewhere. I would say we need a centre half, at least one centre-mid, and a wide man. This is exactly what we had on loan this season. Don’t buy anyone unless they’re a lower league bargain like Holmes. Youth to fill in the gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuskus Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Gk- Carson/new defenders- Malone/Keogh/Davies/Forsyth/Bogle/Wisdom/new/new Midfielders-Evans/huddlestone/Shinnie/Holmes/new/new Attackers-Waghorn/Marriott/Jozefzoon/Lawrence/Bennett/New Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 From what I gather, Shinnie an energetic battler rather than a holding midfielder. More Kante than Busquests. So I’d still have a sitter next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buckley’s Dog Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Talking of sitters, I had a really satisfying dump at Watford junction yesterday. Took a load off and nicely set me up for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kuskus said: Gk- Carson/new defenders- Malone/Keogh/Davies/Forsyth/Bogle/Wisdom/new/new Midfielders-Evans/huddlestone/Shinnie/Holmes/new/new Attackers-Waghorn/Marriott/Jozefzoon/Lawrence/Bennett/New Can't see Wisdom staying and Evans will be fighting for a central defender position rather than midfield where he has been very average.....also wouldn't surprise me to see Joze sold..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Roos Bogle Souttar Tomori Lowe Shinnie Holmes Sibley Lawrence Marriott Waghorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Think we’ll see a lot more youngsters on the bench next season, the 2 wingers Thomas and mcallister have done alright on loan this season, bird is rated by frank and Macdonald and knight were on the bench at Wembley , added to the return of fozzy and Davies and hopefully a couple of loans and we’ll be about the same with some deadwood gone a more younger hungrier squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoneedshuls Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 4 hours ago, cannable said: From what I gather, Shinnie an energetic battler rather than a holding midfielder. More Kante than Busquests. So I’d still have a sitter next to him. Probs been brought in to replace Johnson’s high wages and have huddlestone/Evans sat next to him next season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Dhabi Ram Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Next season... NEW GK BOGLE KEOGH NEW CB LOWE SHINNIE THOMAS SIBLEY/ BIRD HOLMES Marriott WAGHORN Promote the youngsters and buy/loan a couple of quality additions. CB and Gk as priority. Maybe a tough dm to partner Shinnie in away games. Bennett can cover and start in place of either striker as we require, all three are needed. Bird and Sibley to be given chance and Lowe as well. Sell: Martin Thorne - this is sad Huddlestone Lawrence? Mixed thoughts as the season went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 0Trying to be realistic here about who stays and who goes, I'd like to see this (backup/alternatives in brackets) New GK (Ravas) Bogle (New) Keogh (Davies) New/Tomori (Davies) Forsyth (Lowe) Shinnie (Johnson) Holmes (Bird) New (Sibley) Lawrence (New) Marriott (Whittaker) Waghorn (Bennett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 19 hours ago, cannable said: From what I gather, Shinnie an energetic battler rather than a holding midfielder. More Kante than Busquests. So I’d still have a sitter next to him. Players like Busquets are becoming redundant in the modern game so I think Shinnie would be fine on his own, providing the two in front of him are intense and have bags of energy as well. I use reddit(soccer) and many Barcelona fans call Busquets useless now and that the modern game is too quick for him. I don’t watch Barcelona enough so I’d take their word for it but what I can see if a shift into a modern game the last few years where everything is about intensity rather than slow build up play where players like Busquets thrived. I think that’s why English clubs have done well in Europe this season because the intense style suits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 22 hours ago, Srg said: New, Bogle (maybe new if sold), Keogh, New, New, Shinnie, Holmes, New, Lawrence, New, Waghorn/Marriott. Where on earth are we going to find up to 6 people with the surname 'new'? Just imagine the commentary!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 22 hours ago, MallyRam95 said: Right people, now our season is over, who feels this starting 11 is possibly the way forward? Roos Bogle Keogh New CB Malone Shinnie Holmes Lawrence New LW Waghorn Marriott We need a new goalkeeper. Roos is just not good enough. Whenever the ball goes anywhere near him it frightens me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsFan10 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Keepers - New GK, Roos, Ravas (although im not sure Roos will stay if he isn't guaranteed to be a starter). Fullbacks - Bogle, Wisdom, Malone, Forsyth, Lowe - I'm not sure much change is required, he hasn't had the best season at all but you can't really hope for a better back up RB than Wisdom, although im sure he will want to leave and Frank clearly doesn't rate him at all. Centre backs - New CB, New CB, Davies, Keogh, Buchanan? - Not seen much of the young lad play, but he was on the bench at least once this year. Ideally would bring in a younger CB (can't possibly think of someone who fits the description) Central Midfielders - New CM, New CM, Shinnie, Evans, Bird, Sibley - would be tempted to potentially keep Johnson on for another year, but for the wages we must be paying him at the moment i'm sure we could get a player of similar standard with some change to spare. Wingers - Lawrence, New Winger, Holmes, Thomas, Zoon - we're not going to be able to get rid of Zoon, and i'm not sure he's as bad as most think. Strikers - Waghorn, Marriott, Bennett, Knight - think Marriott may go if Frank stays, and don't blame him if he wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 New GK New RB Keogh Tomori /New Forsyth Shinnie New /Sibley Holmes/New Bogle /Thomas Marriott /Waghorn Lawrence/ Jozefoon It would be nice to have a reliable keeper , so a new keeper should be a priority , I would keep Roos as back up and get rid of Carson becuase of age and wages. I would be open to selling Bogle if we can get £14million or more with a good sell on fee of around 15% maybe. If he stays I would be interested to see how he plays as a winger because he is much better offensively than defensively, I would rather have a rock solid right back who can win headers and then let Bogle do his thing going forward. He has got the skills to be a winger and I reckon he would be a menace to opposition defences if he played there. I would say singing another midfielder is important as that is where we have been lacking at times this season and we will need someone to replace Mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 My Prediction First XI New; Bogle, Keogh, New, Malone; New, Shinnie, Holmes; Waghorn, Marriott, Lawrence From the existing squad GKs - Mitchell, Ravas RBs - Bogle, (Holmes as emergency cover) CBs - Keogh, Davies (Evans and Forsyth as emergency cover) LBs - Malone, Lowe, Forsyth CMs - Shinnie, Holmes, Johnson, Evans, Bird, Sibley, Knight FWs - Lawrence, Bennett, Waghorn, Marriott, Thomas Signings GK, CB (who can cover RB), CM, Winger Outs Out of contract players, Thorne, Martin, Jozefzoon, with lots of youth out on loan. Anya to sit at home for another year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Surprised nobody mentioned Andy King. Lampard must rate him to have him back after his injury. Not needed at Leicester, be a decent cheap option to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlio Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I saw that a few forest fans want Marriott after he was initially down to go there! I hope he stays with us as he is a complete predator in front of goal and if he ever plays against us he would definitely be having hat tricks ?don’t know about anyone else but I’m bored already with no football ⚽️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 55 minutes ago, Marriott Ram99 said: New GK New RB Keogh Tomori /New Forsyth Shinnie New /Sibley Holmes/New Bogle /Thomas Marriott /Waghorn Lawrence/ Jozefoon It would be nice to have a reliable keeper , so a new keeper should be a priority , I would keep Roos as back up and get rid of Carson becuase of age and wages. I would be open to selling Bogle if we can get £14million or more with a good sell on fee of around 15% maybe. If he stays I would be interested to see how he plays as a winger because he is much better offensively than defensively, I would rather have a rock solid right back who can win headers and then let Bogle do his thing going forward. He has got the skills to be a winger and I reckon he would be a menace to opposition defences if he played there. I would say singing another midfielder is important as that is where we have been lacking at times this season and we will need someone to replace Mount. Completely agree, we have looked much better going forward which is our strength however we need to be more solid at the back, dealing with the basic things like crosses etc. Hopefully tomori stays for another season, could try Bogle as a winger and he can track back if needs be, sign a solid full back and a new creative midfielder to replace mount. Holmes will replace Wilson as that good player on the ball out wide. Shinnie will be the player that just takes the game by the scruff of the neck and I think that's all we need really. A good reliable goalkeeper would be good too. Any other players could be brought in from our top of the range academy. Roos (or new GK) Bogle. Keogh. Tomori. Malone (or new CB) Shinnie Holmes. (New mid) Lawrence Marriott Waghorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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