irobinson Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Sour grapes I’m afraid Jog on ****** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 10 hours ago, 86 points said: Used to really respect Gibson. Thought as far as owners go he was pretty sound. Turns out he's a bitter little Bamford. #StopCryingSteveGibson Exactly this, always thought a decent bloke but jeeeeez....get a grip!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 10 hours ago, gfs1ram said: Really pathetic !! Selling Pride Park was the same as selling any player - it was an asset of the Club. It was independently valued and that full price was apparently paid. It matters not who brought it !! Counter sue Derby !!! Mel did find a way around the rules to ensure we complied with FFP, I would have thought that legal advice was sort and given first. We are not the only club to have done this. This is similar to using your money in a tax efficient way to avoid paying tax, might not be palatable but its legal. if we lose on Monday and we are the underdogs, do we sue Middlesbrough for libel (as it has been quoted in the press) with the compensation being what we would have got if we had been promoted 160m or what ever it is. The link between the unsettling nature of content and timing would be easy to make with players not being able to perform and undermining DCFC? Middlesbroughs parachute payments are now at an end so I would imagine they are worried about FFP going forward as no doubt they have a large wage bill, not dissimilar to ours for this season. This season was a make or break season for them, they needed to go up and didn't, they will have to cut their cloth accordingly but so do we, what ever division we are in. Gibson is not happy, he was called out, and didn't like it, I cannot help thinking something else is going on at Middlesbrough that we don't know of and this has prompted this behaviour and disrespect COYRs lets win the bloody thing and leave them to wallow in their own self pity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Unable to put what I really think to Gibson's actions here, especially with the playoff final a matter of days away, the FA should halt this circus now!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Am I the only one who finds this worrying. I’m not dismissing it so glibly as sour grapes (although it is), he seems to have some kind of agenda and he’s not letting it drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 The football league need to step right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said: Am I the only one who finds this worrying. I’m not dismissing it so glibly as sour grapes (although it is), he seems to have some kind of agenda and he’s not letting it drop. I think you're right. I also think he has no chance of winning in court. I think his target is more likely the EFL,who won't be happy about this. Either to try and get them to change their mind and punish us, or to change the rules on FFP? The EFL would seem a more obvious target for legal action. After all,it's them that made thenthe decison, bit iirc clubs waive their right to take legal action against the league as a condition of membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 :definition below: " take legal action against a person or organization, especially by making a legal claim for money because of some harm that they have caused you" So even if the courts say found us guilty even though the EFL have signed off the paperwork exactly how would this be implemented?? what... we give Boro compensation ?? how much ?? how would it be worked out and wouldn't all other clubs we've played /be entitled too compensation too ??? EFL could not afford for this to be substantiated or it will open a massive can of worms so I really think we have nothing to worry about but the timing off it stinks.....really lost all respect for Gibson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Saity said: :definition below: " take legal action against a person or organization, especially by making a legal claim for money because of some harm that they have caused you" So even if the courts say found us guilty even though the EFL have signed off the paperwork exactly how would this be implemented?? what... we give Boro compensation ?? how much ?? how would it be worked out and wouldn't all other clubs we've played /be entitled too compensation too ??? EFL could not afford for this to be substantiated or it will open a massive can of worms so I really think we have nothing to worry about but the timing off it stinks.....really lost all respect for Gibson Can’t see how he can pursue the case without calling EFL as witness. They will find this behaviour unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Wouldn’t they be better starting with the clubs that have broken the rules first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 So this is basically an article outlining two possible courses of action that might undermine Derby's attempt to win promotion - Middlesbrough 'vowing' to take action (they haven't actually done it) and Chelsea 'consider' an approach to their former player (they haven't actually done so). If anyone wants suing it is the author of this pathetic attempt to unsettle our club. But of course journalists are full of the integrity that they complain about a lack of in others, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, angieram said: So this is basically an article outlining two possible courses of action that might undermine Derby's attempt to win promotion - Middlesbrough 'vowing' to take action (they haven't actually done it) and Chelsea 'consider' an approach to their former player (they haven't actually done so). If anyone wants suing it is the author of this pathetic attempt to unsettle our club. But of course journalists are full of the integrity that they complain about a lack of in others, aren't they? Dead right Angie. The timing of this isn't accidental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Ambitious said: The irony, of course, being a team with a much higher wage bill than us moaning about us spending money to gain an unfair advantage. £15m on Assombalonga - nearly double our record signing, a player we actually sold for more money than we paid. Britt is probably worth half, if even that, now. If this was Preston or Brentford then I'd be more understanding of their grievances. If you look at the money they've spent on players in their squad: Britt Assombalonga - £15m Aden Flint - £7m George Saville - £8m Paddy McNair - £5m Rudy Gestede - £6m Ashley Fletcher - £6.5m Stewart Downing - £7m Johnny Howson - £6m Martin Braithwaite - £9m You can't help but laugh. I'm sure their fans are embarrassed about this situation. £70 million. ooooops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Ambitious said: The irony, of course, being a team with a much higher wage bill than us moaning about us spending money to gain an unfair advantage. £15m on Assombalonga - nearly double our record signing, a player we actually sold for more money than we paid. Britt is probably worth half, if even that, now. If this was Preston or Brentford then I'd be more understanding of their grievances. If you look at the money they've spent on players in their squad: Britt Assombalonga - £15m Aden Flint - £7m George Saville - £8m Paddy McNair - £5m Rudy Gestede - £6m Ashley Fletcher - £6.5m Stewart Downing - £7m Johnny Howson - £6m Martin Braithwaite - £9m You can't help but laugh. I'm sure their fans are embarrassed about this situation. £70 million. ooooops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 What can Boro get at best out of this,? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, angieram said: So this is basically an article outlining two possible courses of action that might undermine Derby's attempt to win promotion - Middlesbrough 'vowing' to take action (they haven't actually done it) and Chelsea 'consider' an approach to their former player (they haven't actually done so). If anyone wants suing it is the author of this pathetic attempt to unsettle our club. But of course journalists are full of the integrity that they complain about a lack of in others, aren't they? I tend to agree. Its not being reported anywhere else. I would have thought had there been any truth in it Sky Sports would be all over it. Sounds like poo stirring to me. He had better hope that Boro are planning to sue, if they aren't then he may find himself in hot water with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Rampage said: What can Boro get at best out of this,? Playoff final tickets in the Villa end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Paul71 said: I tend to agree. Its not being reported anywhere else. I would have thought had there been any truth in it Sky Sports would be all over it. Sounds like poo stirring to me. He had better hope that Boro are planning to sue, if they aren't then he may find himself in hot water with them. Quite possibly he has sought legal advice about it. The advice might have been don't bother but the reporter got wind of it and went off half cocked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Shipley Ram said: Quite possibly he has sought legal advice about it. The advice might have been don't bother but the reporter got wind of it and went off half cocked? Well, it was Percy the Gump, so in his case that would be full-cocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Shipley Ram said: Quite possibly he has sought legal advice about it. The advice might have been don't bother but the reporter got wind of it and went off half cocked? Or possibly an indiscreet remark somewhere along the lines of "well I'll sue them!" somewhere down the line in some meeting gets put to a journo who promptly has a story. I'll belive it when the writ drops on Mels doormat, and if it gets to that point we'll have to assume Gibson has talked to a serious lawyer and we'll also assume Mel will have some high calibre legal advice of his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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