Harrowram Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 There is no way the Lawrence penalty can be construed as simulation. If anything he slipped but there was contact from the somewhat clumsy West brom centre half. The ref was on the spot and gave it without coercion. No way can Lawrence be banned for diving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramathorn Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Harrowram said: There is no way the Lawrence penalty can be construed as simulation. If anything he slipped but there was contact from the somewhat clumsy West brom centre half. The ref was on the spot and gave it without coercion. No way can Lawrence be banned for diving. I agree with this and everything else said about there being contact and therefore it not mattering what came next.... ...so why do I have this uneasy feeling that we’re going to get shafted here, or at least have this drag out long enough to affect preparations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 3 hours ago, hintonsboots said: I’ve spoken to the penaltymeister himself Franny Lee and he says defo a pen ? Was there, you’ve made me go a bit gooey ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, SKRam said: Was there, you’ve made me go a bit gooey ? That clip was like watching one of those really old films where people look like they're power walking everywhere...... ......frannie never ran that fast....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Lawrence definitely guilty of stimulation. He turned unbelievers into we have always been believers in five minutes. I never doubted it until the Blackburn game and never fully believed it again until yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rampage said: Lawrence definitely guilty of stimulation i see i wasn't the only one aroused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I'm just watching the highlights back and can't get over how good Lawrence actually was. He was immense, really driving forward and creating chances. It would be a massive blow if he gets banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, SKRam said: Was there, you’ve made me go a bit gooey ? Me too as was @Eatonram. I think there were about 15 Derby fans at that game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowram Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Ramathorn said: I agree with this and everything else said about there being contact and therefore it not mattering what came next.... ...so why do I have this uneasy feeling that we’re going to get shafted here, or at least have this drag out long enough to affect preparations Sky seem to be making a meal out of it. The EFL say they await the referee's report. Unless he has completely changed his mind and by doing so admits personal incompetence I can't see anything untoward happening. The referee was well placed to see the incident and there was no coercion from the Derby players. There was contact by Bartley. Refrees sometimes make wrong decisions but that doesn't mean Lawrence deliberately cheated. West Brom can't have any complaints as they were losing and Bartley stayed on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowram Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 If the authorities are going to start banning players retrospectively for cheating Leeds won't be able to field any players next Saturday and the manager will have to stay at home too! Leeds are and always have been the most cheating ,cynical football club going. I watched them play Middlesbrough back in August. It was more like a mixed martial arts contest than a game of football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScamRam Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 How many players, in the past, have ever been booked for simulation in a similar position i.e. just running through onto the penalty spot with the whole goal to aim at? I would say not many. Most simulation incidents occur when teams are drawing or losing and on the edge of the penalty area or down the sides, trying to gain an advantage. Tom had done all the hard work without going down, if it had happened earlier in the move, there may be some debate but he was through, at speed, eyes lighting up, just going to pull the trigger when he was clipped by a defender trying to stop his run - penalty all day for me, even if it had been against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Boycie said: Always gets me that, yeah, it was a foul, he was going to get a free kick, we all get on with the game. no, wait, I got this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 hours ago, ScamRam said: How many players, in the past, have ever been booked for simulation in a similar position i.e. just running through onto the penalty spot with the whole goal to aim at? I would say not many. Most simulation incidents occur when teams are drawing or losing and on the edge of the penalty area or down the sides, trying to gain an advantage. Tom had done all the hard work without going down, if it had happened earlier in the move, there may be some debate but he was through, at speed, eyes lighting up, just going to pull the trigger when he was clipped by a defender trying to stop his run - penalty all day for me, even if it had been against us. Chris Martin at Burnley springs to mind - an identical situation where he dribbled past the defender and had his foot trod on, went down, received a second yellow card and was sent off. The referee that day compounded matters by disallowing Jeff Hendrick's 'goal' as Martin went down and gave Burnley a free kick. Put me down in the 'what goes around comes around' camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Boycie said: Such thuggery....I'm surprised pulis and warnock didn't immediately go into a bidding war for Johnny on the basis of this footage.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan DCFC Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Boycie said: Is he ok!! Lifetime ban for Russell imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 If Lawrence gets banned I have no doubt in my mind that this has been driven by Sky TV. They have an agenda and Clearly want him banning. Why? To even the playing field? Would they prefer to set up a Leeds, Villa final after Bamfordgate? Their own pundits who they pay said it was a penalty so why even waste column inches? Do one Sky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DcFc Dyycheee Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 No real surprises. Look at the replies though ?, anyone would think world famous Leeds United are scared of one of our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 17 hours ago, Rampage said: Ref was 4-6 metres from Penalty incident. End of. I bet some of the defenders he went passed wish they had got that close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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